tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post6826004557085129065..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Node stealing, inner moral compasses and a true storyLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-1446069038530601012008-12-02T09:42:00.000+01:002008-12-02T09:42:00.000+01:00Sorry bud, you decided that teaming up wasn't the ...<I><B>Sorry bud, you decided that teaming up wasn't the right strategy, and chose every man for himself. I was just luckier. Suck it up and move on.<BR/><BR/>I'll help somebody kill a mob if I'm waiting, and team up with anyone to help both of us, but if they don't answer - then first wins.</B></I><BR/><BR/>I agree 110% Typhoonanddrew. I can't stand when people wont group and waits for the mob to respawn. GRRR!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-62226643464354263392008-12-01T12:27:00.000+01:002008-12-01T12:27:00.000+01:00@Oriniwen: I'm a firm believer in doing good in th...@Oriniwen: I'm a firm believer in doing good in the small scale. I'm old enough giving up saving the world. But making someone smile a bit for a second... that's worth a great deal.<BR/><BR/>@Fish: a little bit of politeness will take you a long way. I bet you were pretty much prepared to share anything with this guy, since he asked first.<BR/><BR/>@AJ: I think you're right. The worst thing when you're ninjad isn't the loss of a node. It's the loss of your spirit. Which you can prevent by staying calm at it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-63098036792383574862008-11-28T21:36:00.000+01:002008-11-28T21:36:00.000+01:00@Fish: Yup, most of us get used to expecting less ...@Fish: Yup, most of us get used to expecting less of other people than we will expect of ourselves. It's that whole moral compass deal whereby for some reason we see the average actions of the average majority out there in WoW land and say "That's less than I want to be."<BR/><BR/>@Larisa: I think you hit it on the head at the end of your article, there's what's handed out as the norm from the top, and what we want to be. Like I said on Gevlon's post, I don't ninja, but I get over it when others do it to me. It's a game and nothing's worth losing sight of that, even a few titanium veins.... :)AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111353619109299390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-14471092887048232202008-11-28T17:00:00.000+01:002008-11-28T17:00:00.000+01:00I had a similar situation which surprised me invol...I had a similar situation which surprised me involving a node (not an opposite faction player, it was on a PvP server). I was mining mithril in the badlands when I saw a level 71 pally come in after me near the node. I hurried up and killed my mob and started mining. He actually whispered me and said "Do you mind if I hit that, I am just trying to level" I was so taken aback that he was polite, I told him I was doing the same thing and I didnt mind. I went over to the ogre cave and we shared 2 other mithril nodes.<BR/><BR/>I guess I expect the lowest common denominator, but when people are courteous and mannerly, it is a memorable, enjoyable experience.Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17653252976648480240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-78994246714735252372008-11-28T16:22:00.000+01:002008-11-28T16:22:00.000+01:00I like to think I'm better than the Internet Ashat...I like to think I'm better than the Internet Ashattery Equation. I also like to think that when the situation arises, that I'm not just out for myself. But I also like to think that there really is a Dog Heaven, so maybe I'm just a foolish idealist.<BR/><BR/>The world is complicated, but I think that when you dissect it down into tiny, individual moments, you can see where there are times that you can do good for other people. For whatever reason, and maybe with unforseen repercussions, but hopefully for the (even localized) betterment of all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-2779287420976023062008-11-28T14:13:00.000+01:002008-11-28T14:13:00.000+01:00@David: Ah, sweet revenge for a rogue! Even my mor...@David: Ah, sweet revenge for a rogue! Even my moral compass would accept that.<BR/><BR/>@Typhoonandrew: in those cases you're perfectly in your right to try to snatch it. It's strange, those people not wanting to group. What are they afraid of?<BR/><BR/>@Pugnaciouspriest: well revenge again... as long as you didn't start it I guess it's ok.<BR/><BR/>@Gevlon: you DO have a point and I know I'm naïve. I read this morning in the paper about terror deeds in India. Those people probably thought they had a right cause. Sigh... The world is complicated.<BR/><BR/>@Eishen: I realize playing on a PvP server is pretty different. I think I wouldn't have any problem with node snatching etc from the opposite faction there. It's a part of the game and you have agreed to it.<BR/><BR/>@Zakesh: Snatching mushrooms for a TV???!!! Nah. For a super computer for Wowing maybe :)<BR/>No seriously I don't snatch mushrooms unless I really have to. If it was the end of the world and I was starving I guess my inner moral compass might change a bit, the instincts of survival would take over.<BR/><BR/>And I can't get that war against hordes into my head. I guess it's because I'm such a PvP noob. I fail to see the conflict.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-24596218693404159012008-11-28T09:59:00.000+01:002008-11-28T09:59:00.000+01:00About that mushroom patch in real life. What if th...About that mushroom patch in real life. What if those mushrooms was really expensive and if you got enough of them you could buy yourself a new TV. Also if you didnt get them tonight you probably wouldnt have the chance to go out in the forest for another month. Then I think a whole lot more would fail their inner compass checks. <BR/><BR/>Personally I could consider ninja a node for a horde player but not an alliance player, unless he is on the current "hate" list for like ninjaing a node in front of me or something. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-68989571021508798962008-11-28T09:53:00.000+01:002008-11-28T09:53:00.000+01:00Mining nodes, slow spawn mobs, killing x mobs que...Mining nodes, slow spawn mobs, killing x mobs quest , finding x drops from mobs…<BR/><BR/>With so many petitions and /cry for changing I only feel it adds to the game a very wellcomed (imo) posibility of interaction with different people that acts very differently. Social interaction being the core of the game for me.<BR/><BR/>I have seem , and take myself!, many different conducts, from cross-faction colaboration ( and I play in PvP server) to same faction ninja behaviour via DoT areas of spamming points<BR/><BR/>As for the goblins way thinking… I have to admit that a big part of colaborations (same and cross factions) come for selfishness… If there is a pink pingtailed little gnome killing the elite mob I “need” I can take three ways of action: <BR/><BR/> 1 “Backstab” her with a good pair of Arcane barrages<BR/> 2 Aim those same barrages to the mob<BR/> 3 Wait for “my turn” idly<BR/><BR/>Option 1 would be the choice if she or his guild is on my “black list”…(Or I had a very bad day :-S) , in any other case probably this only would make to lose time on the long run, as it is very probable we meet on another quest step…when odds could be different <BR/><BR/>Opt 2 , I help the little (and cute) gnome she kills quickly the mob, less waiting, and its very probable she will stay to help me…If only to assure same behaviour in next step from my part..<BR/><BR/>By principle I would never take option 3, staying idly only adds to the waiting for the next spawn (as allways there is an exception, if the mob is realy winning the fight it could be an option ^^)<BR/><BR/>Free advice for people who increases their blod presssure, go play Neverwinter nights, its all for yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-54006595437737973032008-11-28T08:55:00.000+01:002008-11-28T08:55:00.000+01:00Dear Larísa!A moral compass is a dangerous thing. ...Dear Larísa!<BR/><BR/>A moral compass is a dangerous thing. You don't know how it works or why, it just works. Most probably it was programmed by your parents when you were a little child. The catch is that since it's not YOUR programming, it can make you do harmful things.<BR/><BR/>Just think of the neo-nazis. Nobody pays them do do what they do. It's definitely against their personal interest to spend their money on nazi regalia and weapons, spend their time on marching and attacking people, risking being imprisoned or get injured in combat. So if they were selfish, they would not do it.<BR/><BR/>They do it because their moral compass says that it's right to "clense" the country from "aliens".<BR/><BR/>Same for islamic fanatics, communists, neo-conservatives. They all believe that what they are doing is morally right.<BR/><BR/>Remember, no selfish people caused wars since we don't risk being killed. The wars are always made by those who believe that they have to follow their moral compass even if it cost their lifes.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-50844823796055830042008-11-28T04:47:00.000+01:002008-11-28T04:47:00.000+01:00I had an indident while questing and my mob that I...I had an indident while questing and my mob that I had been killing trolls for 10 mins to get to respawn was tagged by someone who hadn't done the 10 min of killing required. There were 3 bosses like that and he 10ish min later got a boss I had already killed to spawn, I could have tagged his mob even though I didn't need it for revenge - While tempted - its not my style. The catch though is stealing someones kills/mobs/nodes when the intention is clear is a form of bullying and you shouldn't have to let people walk all over you. <BR/>I did cross the line once when a Tauren hunter was being annoying with my mobs - I had agro'd some mobs in my travels and was planning on shadow melding but it was too good an opportunity to pass up -so I did it ontop of him - and his pet took on the 6 mobs, He didn't die, but I felt a little better..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-38944028242456975302008-11-28T01:53:00.000+01:002008-11-28T01:53:00.000+01:00Its something we'll continue to face, especially a...Its something we'll continue to face, especially as the population fights over spawn points. I think asking and being polite is the way to go, but sometimes you just have to be quick about it.<BR/><BR/>I spend a few minutes last night asking the 3 or 4 guys waiting for a spawn, to see if they'd like to team up. That way we all get the same kill. No answers, they just kept standing there. So I put my pet on aggro, dropped the AoE and grabbed the spawn. A quick kill and I'm off. Then one of the players starts getting huffy as I didn't wait "my turn". <BR/><BR/>Sorry bud, you decided that teaming up wasn't the right strategy, and chose every man for himself. I was just luckier. Suck it up and move on.<BR/><BR/>I'll help somebody kill a mob if I'm waiting, and team up with anyone to help both of us, but if they don't answer - then first wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-84583437396953420542008-11-28T01:19:00.000+01:002008-11-28T01:19:00.000+01:00In WotLK, I have generally had more positive exper...In WotLK, I have generally had more positive experiences than negative ones with my fellow players. Many times I have grouped with strangers to work together on a quest, or I have been helped (or helped) alliance folks across faction lines. <BR/><BR/>Its always nice to get a /thanks or other friendly emote for your efforts. However, I can clearly remember the very few times I had a node grabbed from under me or I had been waiting on an NPC corpse for it to respawn and a caster came in and was spamming aoe to grab it first. I think its because they stick out they remain at the forefront of your memory, and you lose sight of all the pleasant experiences you have had. So when someone ninjas my node, I shrug and move on. It is just a game, after all.<BR/><BR/>On a side note, if you are a rogue or hunter and something is being ninja'd from you, its so nice to be able to feign death or vanish and then the ninja gets to deal with your mob while you grab your node and go on your merry way!Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01052750392687430444noreply@blogger.com