tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post908345160084026326..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Love rather than loot will turn me into a healerLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-39160824950851934562010-03-25T19:21:47.471+01:002010-03-25T19:21:47.471+01:00very nice sentiments pigtail.
I totally agree with...very nice sentiments pigtail.<br />I totally agree with you since all I have ever been is a tank and healer...a tank on my warrior, dk and pally and also duel spec as a pally healer.<br />Been playing since before BC and recently switched to dps for lfg to see how other tanks and heals play and quite honestly I was appalled...both because of their poor attitude and shitty play style...especially the tanks...most of them thought they had all epics on and forgot (or never read up on it to begin with) the number one rule of tanking...Holding Aggro.<br />playing about 3 years ago was way more enjoyable....although Blizzard has tried to make it easier...seems like the only ppl they attract to the game now are ill-manered kids and dirty double douchebags...srry to say :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-65968815007770402952010-01-21T11:53:42.320+01:002010-01-21T11:53:42.320+01:00The thing about tanking and healing is that it get...The thing about tanking and healing is that it gets you coming and going.<br /><br />This is to say - it is much harder to gear for tanking than for any other role, and harder to learn to tank and heal effectively than to dps.<br /><br />However, once you have geared to content, and begun to over-gear content, there is nothing worse than tanking and particularly healing that content.<br /><br />There is no pleasure left in tanking anything in ToC for me, it is all absolute rote. Ask any healer about how fun healing a 50k overgeared block tank through UK is.<br /><br />By contrast, DPSing ToC is still plenty fun. I can see how my new gear stacks up, always work to improve my rotations and positioning, and am in constant competition with my friends and guildmates. The target disappears for heals/tanks in content you have mastered, much faster and more completely than for DPS.CSeraphnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-16546099744261342702010-01-14T20:30:15.561+01:002010-01-14T20:30:15.561+01:00I go into random heroics as tank or healer when I ...I go into random heroics as tank or healer when I want it to be fast, I go as dps when I'm just looking for something relatively stress free and a few extra emblems to stack on the hundreds I have stashed away. (not frost of course)<br /><br />I think instant or near instant queues is reward enough for choosing to tank or heal. One thing I do note that all the jerks, assholes and impatient folks makes me a better tank or a healer. When everything is going 100% either role can be quite boring but when shit hits the fan is where you find out if you're truly good or not.<br /><br />And besides healing or tanking lets you laugh at "the dumb". My favorite is watching melee and sometimes ranged kill themselves on fights like Krystallus.Ookenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-55066058613979858542010-01-14T12:41:41.748+01:002010-01-14T12:41:41.748+01:00You may know what to do, but it doesn't make t...You may know what to do, but it doesn't make the job necessary easier (though being unfamiliar with it does make it harder anyway). I didn't mean the period you learn how to heal, tank, or dps - it's a mess, and it's more stressful for healing and tanking than for dpsing. I meant that when you have two specs and are fine with both, it's not necessary that your dpsing spec will be easier for you to play. And not all tanks and healers are at their learning stage. <br />Though as your post was mostly about first experience, it maybe would be right to admit that learning healing or tanking role is more difficult. You are learning how to dps things from lvl 1, so you're soon pretty familiar with it. But you can't try tanking or healing without being in a group with others, so your learning process requires their patience.Leehohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438956683794597730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-80503712320197676522010-01-14T09:55:38.516+01:002010-01-14T09:55:38.516+01:00@We Fly Spitfire: no worries, I like your rambles!...@We Fly Spitfire: no worries, I like your rambles!<br />/hug!<br />I just don’t know if compensating the bad player attitude with extra loot will make any difference. Either you like being put under stress – or you don’t. It’s much about your mindset and playstyle.<br /><br />@Carra: Five dps? Oh my. But yeah, why not, if they at the same time ramped up the difficulty of the heroics quite a bit, adding enrage timers etc? Making them into 7-mans instead of 5-mans… Might be interesting!<br /><br />@Lucrosus: true, true. We all need some love. The speedrun checkbox could be an idea, even though I’m afraid it might be overused. Some players tend to overestimate their own capacity.<br /><br />@Lonomonkey: Actually as dps:er I never blame anyone but myself if I get killed in an instance. I assume I did something stupid – like standing in fire or not managing my aggro correctly. But when I’m a healer I never blame anyone but myself either! I should have kept everyone alive, it’s my job. Hm… that doesn’t make sense, does it? Always blaming Larísa, no matter what. But that’s just my mindset.<br /><br />@Krizzlybear: you’re giving up on your healing druid?<br /><br />@Eury: ”Belive it or not, there are days where I don’t mind taking my time. Lazy Sunday drives ftw”. Hear, hear!<br /><br />@Jeffo: Mind you, my main is a dps:er and as late as a few days ago I wrote about how exchangeable I feel as a dps and how much I enjoyed to kick a really stupid tank or healer… I know what you mean. But no matter what you think about it – there IS a bond there. I didn’t know how strong it was until I tried healing myself. Then it dawned upon me.<br /><br />@Daergel: yeah, the short waiting time is definitely a reward. A natural market mechanism.<br /><br />@Okrane S: I don’t really know who you’re arguing against. I never said that tanks or healers should get more rewards, did I? Especially in raiding I think it’s a team work and you’re absolutely right that the role of a dps.er can be quite as stressful as the one of a healer and tank, especially if you’re fighting an enrage timer and everyone will evaluate your performance in a recount log afterwards…<br /><br />@Melfina: I guess I’ll feel less stressed about healing once I get more experience.<br />But yeah, tanking is probably even more special since you’re always expected to take the leadership.<br /><br />@G-Rebel: Thank you for the /love and /hug. Very much appreciated!<br /><br />@Zaph: Yeah, sometimes I can’t help wishing there was an addon that could measure your Patience Performance and Teamworker Score as well as your dps and gearscore…<br />For some reason things that can’t be measured aren’t valued, no matter how important they are.<br /><br />@Thebarrenschat: I think what makes me most annoyed is when I don’t get mana breaks. I know that when I’m starting a fight with mana at 30 percent and Innervate on cd, I’m more or less bound to fail, even if I’m potting (sigh, why did they take away the chain potting ability?). And if we wipe I and everyone else will blame me, if nothing else unconsciously. We died, so apparently the healer didn’t do the job, right? And there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it.<br /><br />@Tesh: you’re playing for FUN? What planet are you coming from?:)Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-84316356375054608262010-01-14T06:37:07.132+01:002010-01-14T06:37:07.132+01:00@ Okrane S, If you dont care about 5 mans then why...@ Okrane S, If you dont care about 5 mans then why do you care about what blizzard could do to make more healers and tanks participate in that role in 5 mans?<br /><br />In raids DPS are important, I am not going to argue about how equally important. I am concerned about the slippage of the healer role from 8-9 in BT to 5 in ICC, but good dps can make or break your raids.<br /><br />If your not concerned on your holy priest about dps taking mp5 items, the abundance of relativly useless + hit gear and the fact the crit/haste and haste/spirit are considered ideal dps items I do have to wonder how much you play it.<br /><br />As for your little chart for example on Marrowgar you forgot to mention how important the tanks communicating and stacking is while dodgeing flames. Something no dps have to do besides the hunters. Healers have to do exactly the same things as dps do except its heal the bonespike targets not dps it.Ngitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13526961657299848611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-40183171411986321382010-01-14T00:15:42.942+01:002010-01-14T00:15:42.942+01:00The only thing that will make me play in the tank ...The only thing that will make me play in the tank or healer role (yay for being able to shift as a Druid!) is if it's fun. If it's a chore, loot just won't do it.<br /><br />Yes, indeed, I need to love what I'm doing, or I won't do it.<br /><br />Funny how that works out.Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-53928263640751098882010-01-13T21:36:27.414+01:002010-01-13T21:36:27.414+01:00I think you hit the nail on the head with this one...I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. The main reason I don't like tanking or healing PuGs (my main is a resto/feral druid) is the attitude of people. <br /><br />As a healer or a tank you have other players "lives" in your hands. I always do my very best to keep my group alive either by healing or by holding aggro. I don't expect gratitude for this, since like the rest of the group, I'm only doing my job. However, I would appreciate if people didn't blatently ignore fight mechanics, ignore my calls for mana breaks and go bonkers every time I make the slightest mistake.<br /><br />At the end of the day healing and tanking are often thankless jobs where people will focus mostly on your faults. If I'm playing my mage however, people happily suckle on my e-peen should I hit 6k+ DPS, which only requires half the effort from me.<br /><br />/rant offAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-45203761297613937082010-01-13T20:07:20.302+01:002010-01-13T20:07:20.302+01:00@Okrane
I have trouble believing that you tank or...@Okrane<br /><br />I have trouble believing that you tank or heal in raids with what you just said. Dps don't have it easy either but the big difference is that when a dps messes up he either does less dps for a few secs or he ends up dead. There's very few instance where it will spell doom for everyone.<br /><br />If a tank or healer misses a beat, no matter how small that's 9 or 24 other people getting to run back and pay repairs. And it may look like we stand on each other but there's much more to it than that.<br /><br />So please, before saying things like gtfo walk a mile in other people shoes.lonomonkeyhttp://screammonkey.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-60991374849192614892010-01-13T19:10:27.989+01:002010-01-13T19:10:27.989+01:00I have a slightly different opinion on why there a...I have a slightly different opinion on why there aren't as many healers and tanks. Or rather, why everyone wants to be DPS.<br /><br />Being DPS is competitive, to be the top of the charts, to be a star. The DPS get all the glory, and when you're raised DPS as I was (magey goodness), it's hard to realize that being a healer or a tank can be just as gratifying. I agree with you on "love", both of those vital roles don't get as much glory as they should. <br /><br />But the imbalance will remain, I'm afraid, as long as there are selfish, competitive, phallus-measuring idiots out there. DPS gets the glory.Cobaltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-28006976956419612572010-01-13T18:02:15.659+01:002010-01-13T18:02:15.659+01:00I am a prot pally with a second spec for holy. I ...I am a prot pally with a second spec for holy. I have a warlock alt at 73. When I run heroics, I tank. So from a tank's perspective, I can honestly say that no, tank's should not get extra rewards. Do we "deserve" the short queue times? No, it's just the state of things now. Healing and dps is just as complex as tanking and each class deserves to be treated with respect. Players just need to be gracious and understanding with everyone else. So many people forget that they started at the beginning too.<br /><br />Rude people bring out the worst in me and I have, on occasion, re-paid them in kind, but that is wrong too, adding to the problem. I wish there was a spec for Patience! Talent points that have to be earned on the other side of the keyboard, I guess!Zaphhttp://naganuggets.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-49344665888111899902010-01-13T17:52:32.399+01:002010-01-13T17:52:32.399+01:00"I think the major problem is player attitude..."I think the major problem is player attitude – how we treat our healers and tanks."<br /><br />YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YESHatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615033343005638291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-47805702796114868472010-01-13T17:28:47.472+01:002010-01-13T17:28:47.472+01:00/hug
Dual specs has not been the answer so far, h.../hug<br /><br />Dual specs has not been the answer so far, how could it be the answer of the future? All it affords is a healer fed up with being underappreicated to switch to DPS spec and stay there to spite everyone else.<br /><br />Healing is stressful, no doubt, I've healed from Deadmines through ICC and each fight, being different, has its stressors.<br /><br />One other note, why do debates exist about the importance of one roll over another? Try running a 5 man or a raid without DPS, without a healer, or without a tank...how did that work for you? Lack of patience = greater selfishness, that's what we're suffering from. People thinking one role is more important, tanks running and not waiting even for their healer, DPS yelling GOGOGGOGOGO, it's all about "me me me me me me". It's sick.<br /><br />Here's some /love, Larisa. I think you'll do great with your healer, just great. And if we are ever in a group, "ty for the heals...in advace".G-Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643815147549753677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-88065828916928978092010-01-13T17:03:12.969+01:002010-01-13T17:03:12.969+01:00A positive attitude goes a long way, but sadly the...A positive attitude goes a long way, but sadly the Sanity Tap has stripped most of mine. <br /><br />Now that I've got some healing experience under my belt, I can say that, for me, healing a pug 5 man is far less stressful than dpsing one. As a dps I can always do better, and recount is judging me. As a healer, if no one dies, I did my job right, and for H TOC and the ICC 5mans, I'm happy if I only lose one person per fight. <br /><br />It amazes me how much pressure we put on tanks, and how they manage to deal with it I've no idea. So, in the interests of being kind to the tanks, repeat this mantra...<br />"It is not always the tank's fault. It can be the fault of one or more dps or the healer, or a lack of teamwork, or a bad strategy or no strategy at all." <br /><br />It could also be chain pulling preventing the healer from regaining enough mana to heal, and folks, when your healer sits to drink, your deaths are officially your own fault. <br /><br />IN the end it all boils down to the Golden Rule, but the day that everyone manages to live by that rule, well, let's just say I'm not holding my breath.Melfinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14939155022202916671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-10189800160700263102010-01-13T16:46:50.163+01:002010-01-13T16:46:50.163+01:00I do agree with jeffo. This bullshit about tanks/h...I do agree with jeffo. This bullshit about tanks/healers being somewhat better is just crap stirred by the deplorable state of wotlk 5 mans.<br /><br />And it is strictly the 5 mans where you get to say tank and healers are essential and dps arent. And at the same time, who the fuck cares about 5 mans anyways...<br /><br />Raids are where everything matters and nobody here can fucking say dps has a lesser role in raids. <br /><br />Bad dps is raids is just as bad as bad healers/tanks and good dps are the same best addition as good tanks/healers.<br /><br />Lets take ICC:<br /><br />-Marrowgar: <br />*tanks just stand on top of each other spamming their shit.<br />*healers aoe heal like usual<br />*dps must, stand out of the fire, run from storm, free spiked people, not get aggro etc.<br /><br />-Deathwhisper:<br />*This is an all-dps fight, imo, while tanks and healers have a moderate challenge/role.<br /><br />-Deathbringer:<br />*low dps = dead raid<br />*dps not killing adds/getting hit = wipe.<br />tanks just have to tank, healers just have to spam heals.<br /><br />-Festergut: <br />*tanks just stand on top of each other and taunt sometimes<br />*healers just spam heals and eventually move with spores.<br />* dps must pull 7.5k dps despite the large movement or its a wipe.<br /><br />(that's all I've seen for the moment, got problems with my cpu)<br /><br />So, seriously, it seems to me that in all these encounters tanks have it pretty much faceroll. Threat is always over the roof so no pb there. Just spam buttons while occasionally taunting off the other tank. <br /><br />Healers have it a bit harder as the fights are aoe intense.<br /><br />dps on the other hand carries all the burden in most of these fights.<br />One premature death or 2 = wipe.<br /><br />Need I say more? Seriosly, you whiny tanks should just gtfo. Just because you carry a group in 5 mans doesnt mean anything.<br /><br />Blizzard is all to blame for designing such faceroll instances which everyone can aoe. Honestly, do the effort of mentally going back to TBC, and remember the heroics back then, visualize Heroic MgT and all it implied for the tank, healer and dps, and then rethink your useless posts on your blogs...<br /><br />Nobody cares about 5 mans, as they are simply a dumb and grindy way to get the daily Emblems of Frost, or some more badges for people gearing alts. <br /><br />Bring your arguements regarding raiding, and then we'll talk...<br /><br />(p.s. I raid on a mage, healer priest and tank dk and I put the same effort into all, and NO, I do not feel entitled to more. Tank and healer is WAY easier to gear anyway)Quicksilverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514588622395952812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-23375989103484440732010-01-13T16:37:47.149+01:002010-01-13T16:37:47.149+01:00I see the instant grouping you get as a tank rewar...I see the instant grouping you get as a tank reward enough - I waited nearly half an hour as a dps to get into a pug dungeon, and in that time my tank would have completed an easier hc or be very nearly finished and on to the next. If you extrapolate that out over the longer term, how many more emblems is that? I work it out as around double!<br /><br />But then I am a "sucky tank and a pattetic noob" (sic), clarified to me by a dk in VH who pulled everything in sight and got pissy when I quit the group after he went off on one <br /><br />Tanking can be a thankless job too, but also highly rewarding, much like healingDaergelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03778496411084426275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-576320463684013082010-01-13T15:52:34.517+01:002010-01-13T15:52:34.517+01:00"As a healer I’m running the show as a team w..."As a healer I’m running the show as a team with the tank."<br /><br />This is a two-way street. We get angry with dps who are impatient, or don't act as part of the team, yet we make statements like this one that intentionally or unintentionally cut dps right out of the team. The attitude of so many tanks and healers as displayed here and in many of the responses to so many of the blog posts is 'DPS don't matter.' I think this problem was started when Blizzard decided to make every pull in every instance an AoE fest. If instances had more pulls requiring crowd control then maybe we'd stop seeing things in terms of 'us and them' and more in terms of 'team.'jeffohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708074863929831135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-11859601523006725522010-01-13T15:09:39.708+01:002010-01-13T15:09:39.708+01:00You definitely hit it when you said "player a...You definitely hit it when you said "player attitude". My druid hit 80 right after the new year. I spent most of my time leveling via battlegrounds/5 mans and then topping of with questing in between - so I'm certainly not an expert by any means either.<br /><br />It's amazing how often the stupid dps and suicidal tanks are the ones that spend time belittling healers in groups. I can't heal through laziness and I certainly can't heal stupidity - but that doesn't make me a bad healer. <br /><br />That being said, I'd like to take a minute to thank every dps and tank that took the 10 seconds out of their day to say "good heals". Simple words but they mean a lot to me as a new healer (really, I've only been healing heroics for less than 2 weeks now). I make a point to do the same for tanks and dps out there as well, hopefully the good kharma will win out over the asshats.<br /><br />and /agree with Lucrosus. An option like "speed run" would be awesome b/c I don't know how many times I've gotten into groups only to find out we're only doing 2 bosses or to have the tank say "I'm going fast so keep up". Believe it or not, there are days where I don't mind taking my time. <br /><br />Lazy Sunday drives ftw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-35406870949876487372010-01-13T15:09:31.482+01:002010-01-13T15:09:31.482+01:00Healers get so much shit. It sickens me. I'm...Healers get so much shit. It sickens me. I'm supportive of extra rewards for tanks and healers, but I doubt it is enough incentive to put up with the crap in LFG. It's all DPS from here for me.krizzlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131923949935079418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-87338670360390792792010-01-13T14:59:49.457+01:002010-01-13T14:59:49.457+01:00I'm with Gordon here. I just started tanking s...I'm with Gordon here. I just started tanking seriously after years of dpsing and healing and people really have ludicrous expectations about tanks. As soon as something goes wrong it's always the tank fault, sometimes the healer. It can get to you to have 4 other people constantly asking to go faster, take less damage, etc...<br /><br />Not saying that dps have it easy just that they won't get yelled at as often.lonomonkeyhttp://screammonkey.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-16159187627880946062010-01-13T13:48:47.810+01:002010-01-13T13:48:47.810+01:00I kind of wish there was an additonal checkbox in ...I kind of wish there was an additonal checkbox in the LFG tool: "Speed Run". If you're overgeared and are expecting the same, check this box, and get grouped with people with ilvl 232+ gear. If you dont check that box, you get grouped with people with lower gear ilvl. Gear level isnt everything, but it at least can tell you you're with toons who are new to the instances or used to them.<br /><br />That being said, I play a mage as a main, a tree as a "main alt", and am bringing a prot pally into the fold as a third. I think all parts, DPS, heals, tank, are equal but different. DPS isn't necessarily just spamming spells. If the healer pulls aggro, try to pick up that mob. Look for curses to decurse, know if/when the tank can support AoE or if you have to single target focus. As heals, there's tank healing, obviously, but know when to anticipate group heals, like when you see one of those skellies in FoS pop spell reflect before a mage's missiles hit, etc. I'm still new to tanking, and to say the least, its hectic, mostly because I've been running with overgeared DPS and its hard to hold aggro. Some guildies LOLed and said they're just breaking me in, which I agree with, but damn is it hard to think about rotations and positioning when mobs are getting pulled every which way.<br /><br />Each class needs "love" and mad props. A great tank can carry so-so DPS and a so-so healer. An awesome healer can make a so-so tank look outstanding. A group with 3 7k DPSers is going to burn through everything before the tank knows whats going on. Each archetype needs its own love :)Lucrosus, US-Hyjalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-28419399226233280762010-01-13T12:52:08.863+01:002010-01-13T12:52:08.863+01:00Any post that features a Beatles automatically get...Any post that features a Beatles automatically gets twice as good ;)<br /><br />I've said it dozens of times before: people are afraid of taking up the responsibility of tanking or healing. Part of that does indeed come from the fact that people have no patience with new players. And no major changes such as dual specs are going to change this behavior. <br /><br />There's one simple solution: add more DPS to a group. One tank, one healer, five dps? Would lower the queues for DPS.Carrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11155709707982913637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-59298248801671832012010-01-13T12:07:20.367+01:002010-01-13T12:07:20.367+01:00Oh I forgot to add one thing!
Before you dimiss t...Oh I forgot to add one thing!<br /><br />Before you dimiss the relationship between bonuses in real life to rewards in a computer game by saying that aren't related, remember that games like WoW already reward those that work the 'hardest' - raiders. Raid rewards are certainly more attractive that non-raid rewards in order to reflect the extra time and effort required to obtain them. This is undeniably a capitalistic tendancy that mimics real life.<br /><br />If a game like WoW was to institute real equality, then everyone would be given a full set of raid gear the moment they logged into the game, regardless of what they've achieved. Essentially the online version of Communism :)<br /><br />Anyway, sorry for the rambles!We Fly Spitfireshttp://blog.weflyspitfires.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-13844424053494607242010-01-13T11:59:14.590+01:002010-01-13T11:59:14.590+01:00I think you said it well yourself:
"I think ...I think you said it well yourself:<br /><br />"I think the major problem is player attitude – how we treat our healers and tanks. There is absolutely no forbearance, no patience, no understanding for the fact that everyone is new at some point and has to start somewhere – gearing up and learning to play their class in this specific roll."<br /><br />Basically this is why tanking and healing is more stressful: other player's attitudes towards you. It's very hard to slack as a tank or healer and get away with it but on the contrary, DPS classes aren't under the same pressure and often it will go unnoticed if they take their eye off the ball for a few minutes. This is a strong case as to why DPSing is more 'enjoyable' and certainly more popular.<br /><br />On the subject of rewards, I'd like to say that the article draws comparisons between real society and gaming. Workers quite frequently get performance bonuses in real life due to our capitalistic nature - we reward with material goods. It's why employees get attracted to banks with huge bonuses. Whether it's right or wrong, it's unfortunately something that goes on.<br /><br />Anyhoo, nice post :) /hugWe Fly Spitfireshttp://blog.weflyspitfires.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-5175284829050142572010-01-13T11:22:05.172+01:002010-01-13T11:22:05.172+01:00@Jormundgaard: it also depends on the experience. ...@Jormundgaard: it also depends on the experience. A new tank or healer needs more appreciation and compassion than an experienced one imo.<br /><br />@moarhps: I honestly can’t think of any offer of extra loot that would be sufficient to cover for bad player attitudes.<br /><br /><br />@Anonymous: I feel the same. But at some point you need to take the step. And besides there aren’t enough alts in my guild at the appropriate level to make up a full party whenever I’m up for an instance, so if I want to try instance running on my druid I just have to do it, scary or not.<br /><br />@Klepsacovic: That’s a very nice guide!<br /><br />@Ngita: that’s true. You really can’t take your eyes of the screen on those roles. But still I think it’s more a matter of mentality than of the possible rewards when you decide to tank or heal.<br /><br />@Fitz: oh yes, I definitely agree that the instances are completely different when you see them from another perspective.<br /><br />@Tessy: ouch. It hasn’t been that bad for me – yet. But then I’m far from entering heroics. I suspect that can be much worse.<br /><br />@Olga: I guess everything becomes easy once you know your stuff. To me healing and tanking is extremely complicated, but it’s probably got to do with my lack of experience.<br /><br />@Kyff: this is an effect of the rather quick levelling these days. Combine the lower amount of required xp with being rested and carrying heirloom gear… You don’t spend that much time on each level. And besides I found it much harder than I had thought to find groups as I was levelling. So it turned out to be more of questing and less of instance running than I had hoped for. Because of this I’m still quite new to this and therefore lack some confidence. The random dungeon finder will probably change the situation. I have a guildie levelling a dk, and we have plans on doing dungeons now, with him as a tank and me as a healer. Then we can fill up with random dps:ers. I think that will be a good way for me to get more experience without being to afraid and intimidated by some scrub “gogogo-players.”<br /><br />@Vorne: yeah, I would agree with Jong at Forbearance in this one. In the end it's all about teamwork.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.com