tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post9027655368800002109..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Strategies of Fun for the Frequent FlyerLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-7034128366875902152010-12-02T03:09:18.655+01:002010-12-02T03:09:18.655+01:00chalk me down firmly entrenched in #3chalk me down firmly entrenched in #3Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-32721219583427292712010-12-01T14:27:23.496+01:002010-12-01T14:27:23.496+01:00@Larisa--
True, but I'm fighting a rearguard ...@Larisa--<br /><br />True, but I'm fighting a rearguard action against needing bifocals, and while the utility is great, my eyes are complaining.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-27939743204281476502010-12-01T13:39:45.533+01:002010-12-01T13:39:45.533+01:00Don't fulfill any gender prejudices, Larísa :)...Don't fulfill any gender prejudices, Larísa :)<br /><br />You are quite capable of discussing game development and I would love to read about it.Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-27896279047416065932010-12-01T10:56:32.714+01:002010-12-01T10:56:32.714+01:00@Tam: I agree! Why are you hanging around here? Ge...@Tam: I agree! Why are you hanging around here? Get going and blog about it! <br /><br />About the imposing mechanisms on the players; isn't that what game design is all about? You set up a bunch of rules that limits the world, like natural laws. And those rules will steer the player in a certain direction, giving the game experience you intended to give.<br />Of course the limits are less forceful than for instance in a movie; it's a world where you can move around and have way more of free choice than you have if you're merely watching something through. But in the end; it is a piece of artistic work and making up the rules is an essential part of it. Perhaps?<br /><br />You have to excuse me; I feel like I'm in deep water here; I'm no deep game-design-thinker like Tobold, Psychochild, Wolfshead or Nils. Just a simple bartender scratching her head, trying to figure out the invisible mechanisms.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-71313429532863330512010-12-01T10:28:48.234+01:002010-12-01T10:28:48.234+01:00I think this is a charming post, and I really enjo...I think this is a charming post, and I really enjoyed it.<br /><br />*However* I do largely agree with people who are upset over the removal of the portals, not because I care specifically about the portals but because I care about player choice. And ultimately I dislike mechanisms imposed on games by designers with the implicit intention of "forcing" players to be more appreciative of their environment. Yes, I know they did a bunch of work on the old world for Cata and I know they want us to see it but that's our choice. And if we want to ignore it and not give a damn that's a valid choice too.<br /><br />And equally I don't think it does come down to "not giving a damn" - it comes down to sometimes needing to get somewhere efficiently. <br /><br />I guess I should stop ranting and blog :)Tamhttp://www.righteousorbs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-56027830918504390332010-12-01T10:09:03.498+01:002010-12-01T10:09:03.498+01:00Larísa,
I absolutely do think that players should...Larísa,<br /><br />I absolutely do think that players should have fun as often as possible and as much as possible.<br /><br />That having said: Fun is not an inherent property of an isolated activity. Consequently, chaining 'fun' activities does not work for a game developer.<br /><br />One strategy that does work is to make use of the <a href="http://nilsmmoblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/annoyance-and-anticipation.html" rel="nofollow">anticipation</a> of fun that is fun in itself.Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-13558584857854818532010-12-01T02:46:35.810+01:002010-12-01T02:46:35.810+01:00@ perdissa.
and they didn't just shut down fr...@ perdissa.<br /><br />and they didn't just shut down freeways temporarily because repairs need to be done or there was an accident or something.<br /><br />they just decided that there's plenty of side streets for you to take and really, you don't need freeways to get to work anymore, you have like 5 different routs using the side streets and never mind that it means you have to get up half an hour earlier each day, just to make it to work on time.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-60153704318236957752010-12-01T02:38:12.263+01:002010-12-01T02:38:12.263+01:00@ Pascal, I completely understand, and actually I ...@ Pascal, I completely understand, and actually I think most of the people here would.<br /><br />I have switched guilds several times, despite liking most people in them and keeping in touch even after the switch for what boils down to one reason. they refuse to respect each other's time.<br /><br />here's the situation that I'm sure is very familiar to pretty much anyone who has ever played an MMO, not just WoW either. you decide that you want to raid steadily. you join a group who's schedule meshes with yours, you set aside the those few hours to raid uninterrupted. you show up on time, with flasks and food, your gear repaired ready to roll and kill some virtual dragons.<br /><br />except couple of people outright didn't show up without warning and even once replacements were found, you find yourself sitting inside the instance for a while...the once you finally kill one boss, you sit inside the instance some more because someone decided that they needed to go afk for 15 minutes (and we're not talking crying baby or something of that nature either), or someone needs to enchant and gem their upgrade right this minutes, so they make everyone else wait while they hearth to their city of choice, made especially lovely when there's no warlock in your group, so people actually need to zone out of the instance to summon them back.<br /><br />its not fun is it? in the beginning you might be tolerant for things like that, then you start making excuses of how real life is > then WoW (and that actually being true makes you feel guilty at being annoyed at someone being completely disrespectful of YOUR real life, by cutting into your game time). but eventually, you cannot stand it anymore and either stop raiding all together or find a group of people that realize that your game time might be limited and that no, you won't be able to stay up past the raid time and finish off the instance, just because they couldn't be arsed to log in when they promised or give any sort of notice of them being late.<br /><br />so why is it NOT OK when other players do it to you, and yet when developers do it to you, its fine and dandy? and why do people not see the correlation?Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-14847369158167229102010-12-01T02:35:46.998+01:002010-12-01T02:35:46.998+01:00Just to chip in again on this topic. I see a lot o...Just to chip in again on this topic. I see a lot of people equating the lack of portals with exploring. In my mind, these are 2 very different things.<br /><br />To put it in perspective.. If I'm in a foreign country, I tend to want to look in the nooks and crannys, to just walk down the street and experience the pulse of the place.<br /><br />On the other hand, if I'm trying to get to work, and someone tells me the expressways are all going to be shut down, I'm going to be plenty upset.Perdissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-62536918659935157032010-12-01T01:48:41.051+01:002010-12-01T01:48:41.051+01:00@leah: "some of us don't want to multitas...@leah: "some of us don't want to multitask. we like to focus on one task at the time."<br /><br />And in some cases we don't have much choice. With two small kids and a maybe an hour a day to play, wasting half of that time looking at the pretty scenery for the 50th time doesn't really make for an enjoyable gaming experience.<br /><br />And yes, you CAN play an MMO, level to 80 and even do ICC with only a few hours a week. It takes a long time, but at least portals allowed you to cut on travel time and pack more playing into your available time.<br /><br />Rather than waiting and doing the other things you were trying to get away from :)Pascalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-91996049147289351172010-12-01T01:40:40.274+01:002010-12-01T01:40:40.274+01:00"Here are ways to occupy yourself while the t..."Here are ways to occupy yourself while the time you wanted to do the things you enjoy in the game is being wasted on a time-sink"<br /><br />I recently found myself in a situation where World of Warcraft was filled with those types of situations. It was as if these enforced constraints had me spending more time reading a book while logged in than actually playing.<br /><br />So, I did much the same as the blogger you speak of. I cancelled my subscription, went back on a 10 day trial of Warhammer Online.<br /><br />Much more fun as I get to decide where I spend my time in-game; not the developers.Pascalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-4554611490119411722010-11-30T23:00:42.922+01:002010-11-30T23:00:42.922+01:00Larissa, I'm not angry at you specifically, I&...Larissa, I'm not angry at you specifically, I'm just angry at the whole attitude of "patting on the head and its not a big deal and you must be lazy and spoiled if you don't like it and why are you still interested in traveling between northrend, outland and old world anyways etc"<br /><br />its become a big deal because of that.<br /><br />you were actually one of the most reasonable people commenting on the subject, but coming from reading all the other responses, including some of those in your very own post.....<br /><br />I feel like I'm swimming against the tide.<br /><br />and maybe its a strange issue to take a stand on, but I guess I just got fed up trying to conform.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-89881064907863448362010-11-30T22:56:37.530+01:002010-11-30T22:56:37.530+01:00If you really want "convenient travel" a...If you really want "convenient travel" and no "forced waiting", roll a mage with engineering (teleports plus wormholes). You'll start to see Dalaran portals as slow and inconvenient. Instead of pining for them, you'll wish you could instantly port yourself wherever you please.<br /><br />Having experienced this, playing other alts is much more relaxed. There's no way they're going to travel at warp speed so it's easier to smell the roses or wait for a boat (whatever happened to fishing on the docks?).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-21986007975631609882010-11-30T22:49:39.008+01:002010-11-30T22:49:39.008+01:00@Leah: I can see that you're very angry and up...@Leah: I can see that you're very angry and upset about this, but I'm not sure if I deserve all this rage. I don't think this post was particularly aggressive in its tone. I was rather trying to be slightly entertaining and optimistic, pointing at things you might do to enjoy your travel time a little more.<br /><br />I hear what you're saying, but I don't agree about that this is such a huge issue. After all it's not the travelling between the major cities that take the most time - boats are much quicker these days than they used to be. But again: you're entitled to not like this change. Like I am entitled to think it's an OK and even understandable change. Let's agree on that we're disagreeing. Peace.<br /><br />@Bronte: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Overly Positive. I hope it's a compliment?<br />I think I'll try to turn into a health seeker myself. It's about time!<br /><br />@Anonymous: Agreed. Even if I have a 310 mount I put my char on a paid trip so I can grab a snack, have a bio break, whatever... It's well worth a couple of gold in flight fees.<br /><br />@Fuubar: Agreed. Maybe someone should make a post to remind us of all the options there are? I think we're a bit locked up to portals in our mindsets (especially me having a mage ;))<br /><br />@Lytstep: Well the bats/gryphons will shorten our ground mount time but also increase the mounted time since we can fly all the way I reckon. So there's surely room for a few more push-ups, with isn't necessarily a bad thing.<br /><br />@Anonymous: Thank you. Just a small remark: I'm Larísa and not Miss Mediocre, who I believe is another blogger.<br /><br />@Msp: I suppose we'll have to go back to slightly better planning as we're levelling. But is that necessarily an entirely bad thing. In one way it's a little meta-game per se.<br /><br />@SpiritusRex: I'm more of a Gourmet than an Exerciser atm, but I've got to change that. A pendulum movement between the categories is probably best.<br /><br />And yes, the instant portal taking everywhere makes the world pretty redundant. Together with the instant portals to everything from BGs to dungeons they make wow more into a bunch of losely connected seperate games than to a real (unreal) world. <br /><br />@Tesh: I think it's fine as a temporary solution but I'm not against bringing them back when the next expansion has aged a bit.<br /><br />@Anonymous: I agree about the timetable for the boats. The only advice I can give on this is that you get a fishing pole. If you're alliance that will say...<br /><br />@Anonymous: UI tweaks sounds as a great occupation for the Organizer.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-39089715596891610482010-11-30T22:20:24.369+01:002010-11-30T22:20:24.369+01:00@Crowqueen: Actually the travelling is far more co...@Crowqueen: Actually the travelling is far more convenient than it used to be before the portals came up. After all the boats are infinitely much quicker. And there are all those new fp:s. This adds a lot of convenience! Remember how it was when you quested in north STV and had to go the BB to deliver a q? That kind of forced travel back and forward on a road you've seen dozens of times was FAR more annoying than a quick boat tour if you ask me.<br /><br />But people forget so quickly. Once you've become used to a certain shortcut in the game you hold to it tightly I figure.<br /><br />@Anonymous: Wow, you exercise! That's impressive! I haven't yet come around to do it myself, it was just a suggestion. But now that you say it I might try :)<br /><br />@Shintar: I think like you that we might have less reason to travel that way than we may imagine. After all the questlines aren't going back and forward all over the world like they used to...<br /><br />@Green Armadillo: I put my suggestions in alphabetic order since it was the best I could come up with. Some of them suit the alt-tabbing kind of players, others are for in-game enjoyment.<br />Most of all they're intended to be lighthearted though, not to be taken too seriously.<br /><br />@Syl: Game crashes are a bit annoying. But you don't seem to be too bad off anyway. Chatting or huggles or enjoying the view are all good ways to spend your time.<br /><br />@Redbeard: well, there's nothing that forces you to pick them all is there? I must say that those fp:s is a very pleasant surprise for levelling. I've got a little gnome priest at 11 and I already enjoy them immensly.<br /><br />@Dyre42: Awww... nowhere's like home is there? I suppose we'll have to get used to sleep out in the field for a while while levelling until the portals are up again.<br /><br />@Ophelie: Yeah, actually the downtime fits in very well to me. It helps me to take breaks I otherwise probably wouldn't come around to do.<br /><br />@Grookshank: Hehe... is it the outside aspect of it that makes you think smoking has a component of health?<br /><br />@Havelock1982: Well, this post wasn't intended to bash certain players and I regret if you red it that way. It was meant to be lighthearted and slightly entertaining, but maybe I missed the goal. Humor is difficult. Then again: there is a nugget of seriousness in it in the manner that I try to deal with issues that players might have with the increased travel time in a somewhat constructive way. That's my normal way: rather than raging over things I can't affect, I try to change things that are within my power. Going around being annoyed will only make you miserable.<br /><br />Then again: sometimes you WANT to feel miserable and other times you might fail to take it cool since you're human. I don't argue about that. People are entitled to have views. I'm a little bit surprised though that you think I have attitude problems. I think I was fairly mild and understanding considering the rage expressed for instance in the posts by the blogger I referred to.<br /><br />@Helistar: I haven't yet seen the Stormwind lag so I'll leave to cataclysm before I make the verdict on that. However I think they HAVE learned something; after all they're not making horde and allies share the same main city hubs. That should reduce the problems with half of it.<br /><br />@Perdissa: Yeah, I think the complaints will calm down once we're busy levelling again and as portals are coming up again.<br /><br />@B_Dragon: Aye. I had forgotten about it but Dalaran was really a nightmare on my old comp. I bound my stone to Underbelly to not freeze the game entirely.<br /><br />@Nils: But where does the idea that we're supposed to have FUN all the time come from? Actually I thought that you were pretty much with Wolfshead on this? Hm... I figure I should reread your blog more closely;)Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-61849147378576313452010-11-30T22:11:45.856+01:002010-11-30T22:11:45.856+01:00@ Fuu
It's not that I can't figure out ho...@ Fuu<br /><br />It's not that I can't figure out how to get places anymore. It's that the opportunity cost of doing something spontaneous and fun - like going off the beaten path to explore a mountain range in Winterspring - is simply too high. A tiny miscalculation or a small change of plans, HS on cooldown for example (as in my situation with Dal -> Shatt -> SM) could cost me a good half of my game session. Some travel times approach the duration of dungeon deserter debuff that's used as a punishment tool. Funny, isn't it. <br /><br />By the way, as Leah noted, Cataclysm will not address this problem specifically, but at least Old World <-> Northrend commute will not be as much of a concern. This is why I wish they'd found in a way to keep the city portals around until Cataclysm goes live.mspnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-47493205958825722742010-11-30T21:25:55.435+01:002010-11-30T21:25:55.435+01:00P.S. maybe the issue is that some people enjoy be...P.S. maybe the issue is that some people enjoy being multitaskers?<br /><br />not everyone does. <br /><br />If I'm going to work out, I set aside an hour and all I do in that hour is concentrate on my workout. I never could understand people who spent half their gym time chatting. it breaks up the concentration, it ruins the flow of your workout<br /><br />when I'm cooking - I'm in it the whole way.<br /><br />if I'm reading a book - I'm in it for the long haul, I cannot just read half a chapter and then set it aside. I read when I travel in real life, but generally on trips that take half an hour or more.<br /><br />if I'm playing a game - I'm playing THAT game. the only reason I alt tab is to look up a hint on some spot that I'm stuck on and cannot figure out my own solution.<br /><br />some of us don't want to multitask. we like to focus on one task at the time.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-60786861410552831682010-11-30T21:12:44.088+01:002010-11-30T21:12:44.088+01:00hearthstone =/= place I spend most of my time at. ...hearthstone =/= place I spend most of my time at. I was never someone who sat in Dalaran for long periods of time. all the travel "options" that people are mentioning were in a game before, we had one of the options removed. <br /><br />portals to new zones (which for some reason are fine and dandy and welcome to all, nothing wrong with convenient travel to new stuff, eh) will not lead you to outland or northrend. they might make traveling to different continent cities slightly less annoying then it is now, but you still won't have as much of a choice as you sued to when you could essentially travel between the cities directly.<br /><br />hopping into a magical portal and coming out on the other side in a world I want to explore is perfectly immersive to me. we ARE after all exploring the magical world. Sitting at the top of the zeppelin tower, doing nothing because if you blink and miss it, you are stuck waiting again and then stepping away from the game, while you wait for your long flight path to finish? don't you see how it breaks up the flow of the game?<br /><br />first time you see the new areas - its epic. 10th time you see them "oh that's nice" 50th time you are stuck seeing them, you are not even trying to watch anymore. Not to mention inability to jump off the taxi to explore something interesting you saw on that one time you actually stayed at your computer? <br /><br />I have traveled on my own power instead of taking a taxi before when I wanted to enjoy the journey. portals never forced me to take them. I don't know about other people, but just having something in front of me, doesn't mean I will always use it over anything else, even if I would prefer to use something else. I liked having an option of just getting to my destination quickly when I didn't feel like traveling.<br /><br />lastly - Northrend and outland content are still there. they will be there in 7 days still and some people actually came back to them for other reasons the leveling, and people might want to participate in Northrend contend as well as new stuff all in the same gaming session. I know, weirdos, right? >_> the options that people have right now are ridiculously biased. tabard that takes a minimum of 27 days to get, or a ring that only has one use at this point, and costs more then all riding/flying skills combined<br /><br />I don't know why I'm still dwelling on this honestly. no wait, I know because this is what truly made me as angry as it did - people absolutely refusing to see the opposing point from our perspective. refusing to accept that things that don't bother them might be bothering us and that its acceptable to be bothered by different things. people refusing g to see that we what our damn choices back.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-58104720201179854062010-11-30T19:38:17.489+01:002010-11-30T19:38:17.489+01:00I have always enjoyed using the flight paths. For...I have always enjoyed using the flight paths. For me, they are a great time to make UI tweaks. I just open up my addon menus and try out different configurations. Sometimes, if the flight is long enough, I can have a brand new UI when I reach my destination. =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-34081182472398537832010-11-30T19:31:52.570+01:002010-11-30T19:31:52.570+01:00@ msp
"In my last gaming session I spent 10 ...@ msp<br /><br />"In my last gaming session I spent 10 minutes getting from Dal to Outland to poke around in some old dungeons, just to turn around in Shatt and spent another 20 minutes on a taxi to help a friend near SM."<br /><br />Ok, quick fix to what took you "20 minutes"<br /><br />Set your hearthstone to either SW or Org. There is a portal in these cities that takes you straight to the dark portal enterance. BAM! You're in outlands. Once there, you can fly yourself or take a FP depending on where you wanted to go. <br /><br />Oh, you wanted to go to Scarlet Monestary from Outlands? Hearth back to your main city. SW= FP to Chillwind pass or Anderhol Org= how ever you get to Undercity. <br /><br />Going outside of the major cities still takes time regardless of having a Portal hub. <br /><br />Blizzard made it super simple to travel around to the major cities now via boat, FP, or Tram. Perhaps what we all really need to do is plan out the best route to get to places before we head out. <br /><br /><3 FuuAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17819473991798509996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-83141879794015183622010-11-30T19:13:28.508+01:002010-11-30T19:13:28.508+01:00I really don't mind having to actually travel ...I really don't mind having to actually travel from place to place. My one pet peeve though is that they need to up the frequency of the boats. I find the wait is too long for them to arrive. Otherwise, I agree - it's a time to see the world and also to distract yourself with something else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-23006703161885474132010-11-30T19:10:45.631+01:002010-11-30T19:10:45.631+01:00I think removal of the portals was a bad idea, but...I think removal of the portals was a bad idea, but then, I'm the sort that just goes and explores on my own most of the time anyway. It's just that I'd rather have the option of using them if I'm in a rush, even if I usually take the long way around because I love to explore.Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-90142363957985792372010-11-30T18:58:35.286+01:002010-11-30T18:58:35.286+01:00Lemme get this straight. People are complaining t...Lemme get this straight. People are complaining that taking a flight path instead of a portal ruins their immersion? Hmm, really? I can see a lot more "reality" for RP immersion in travel time, rather than having portals which instantly send me across time and space. Once again, it seems that the "go go go" generation is speaking up.<br />Don't like not having portals and want to go-go-go all the time? Well, I've got an easy fix for ya...roll a mage. Otherwise, suck it up and deal with it.<br /><br />/sigh somebody's always whining about something<br /><br />Nice post, Larissa. I find myself in more than one of your categories, often right after one another. Most notably, the Gourmet, quickly followed by a "Oh, crap, I ate how many of those?", morphing into an Exerciser.SpiritusRexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-8897011986741387882010-11-30T18:53:08.307+01:002010-11-30T18:53:08.307+01:00Nothing encourages exploration and travel like 20 ...Nothing encourages exploration and travel like 20 minutes of quality AFK time. One way. Don't take me wrong - I love exploring, but I also like be able to get places quickly if need be. Satisfying my burning desire to go get stuck on geometry in some far away land shouldn't require thorough planning. In my last gaming session I spent 10 minutes getting from Dal to Outland to poke around in some old dungeons, just to turn around in Shatt and spent another 20 minutes on a taxi to help a friend near SM. Oh joy!<br /><br />Alt+tabbing and doing something else while the game is wasting a significant portion of my play session is not an acceptable solution. Same goes for slapping grown adults with a mandatory time out every time we set foot outside a city. I hope this gets better come Cataclysm, but for now I'll stick to sitting around in IF.mspnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-59410164825548041872010-11-30T18:15:37.296+01:002010-11-30T18:15:37.296+01:00I love flight time! I've always enjoyed the vi...I love flight time! I've always enjoyed the views, even when I'm taking the same flight for the hundredth time. But I really appreciate the few minutes to knit, crochet or spin on whatever project I'm working on that day. <br /><br />Thanks for your post, Miss Mediocre. Well-crafted, as always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com