tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post8434767012362970157..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Running against the Nerf Enrage TimerLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-30468472798836670962009-05-15T22:59:00.000+02:002009-05-15T22:59:00.000+02:00To be fair, Ulduar 'easy' modes were easy to begin...To be fair, Ulduar 'easy' modes were easy to begin with. Except Ignis, which was just bugged (and maybe a bit overtuned). And, of course, the Mimiron trash :-(.<br />And, yes, maybe I'm lucky to have experienced most fights before they got nerfed. Still, I don't really think any boss you can kill after 3-4 attempts of reading tooltips and trying to figure out what to do is 'hard', or 'well tuned'.<br />Hard modes... Well, yeah, different story. They are supposed to be hard, and I think if anything, the only problem is that you don't get extra loot from hard modes (except the hardest mode), just extra emblems.George-Cristian Birzanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14756669318195710083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-2166918790353573002009-05-02T10:30:00.000+02:002009-05-02T10:30:00.000+02:00I really don't know where this idea about one-shot...I really don't know where this idea about one-shotting bosses came from. But I guess it's as many have pointed out - Naxx gave another sort of expectation on raiding.<br /><br />@Tristan: oh, haven't come that far. Hope they'll fix it then!<br /><br />@Rubymelon: well, I don't think we'll run into that kind of problem. But yeah, it really is a struggle to many guilds. You don't all go on vacation at the same time, which will mean that this period will be pretty long.<br /><br />@Gevlon: yeah, it's just a bit annoying that you have to be THAT quick to not be outrun in the race against the nerf timer. They should give us a little bit more time. But I guess it's all about profit. You have some goblin collegues there at Blizzard...<br /><br />@Klepsacovic: I thought they had found a good level now, perfectly tuned, but apparently it is as you say - too many players think it's too difficult and they have to act accordingly.<br /><br />@Spinksville: well, it remains to see how the hard modes will be. Maybe they'll be just right. I loved the sarth+3d fight. Perhaps will get a bunch of those when we start exploring them?<br /><br />@Shy: I like the idea of easy and hard modes, but I'd like to be able to clear it on normal mode at the same level of difficulty as the guilds who did it first. <br /><br />@Vlad: exactly my experience. It really wasn't necessary to nerf it that quick.<br /><br />@Firesprit: but they surely should be able to seperate 10 man and 25 man raids? They don't have to nerf everything. And not that quickly! They only gave us two weeks. The next raid instance won't be out until next autumn. We really don't have to clear everthing at once. We could gradually work our way through this, just as we did in BT for instance.Larísanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-25410324770412807932009-05-01T15:51:00.000+02:002009-05-01T15:51:00.000+02:00Larisa:
I think these nerfs were a situation wher...Larisa:<br /><br />I think these nerfs were a situation where 10 man's were squarely in sight, and 25 mans got hit.<br /><br />I run with an absolute fantastic group of 9 other players. We all come from different guilds, and as such, we are not tracked in progression threads (not that it matters), but I am firmly convinced we are one of the top 10 man squads on the server (full clear of Naxx in 2.0 hours, maybe a touch less). What does matter, is that we are solely focused on 10 man content. We have no desire, nor time to put in major 25 man raid attendance (not to say that some of us haven't ventured in a time or two).<br /><br />Long story short, we had Best in slot from 10 man raiding (save Malygos - we got him down to 10% before Ulduar came out, and haven't been back because of scheduling).<br /><br />Simple fact of the matter is that with the best purps and some of the most skilled players I have ever managed to play with in the game. And guess what? We couldn't get past the gear check that is XT-002. The heals were just not there.<br /><br />It really felt that Ulduar was more a step up from 25 man raiding - IE Naxx10 > Naxx 25 > Ulduar 10<br /><br />All of that being taken into consideration, Im looking at the nerfs and wondering if they haven't gone a bit *too* far. Our next shot at Ulduar is on Monday (*weep, our raid leader is moving). Honestly, It looks like we are going to be able to go back in and one shot all of the first 4 bosses.Firespiritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-89256545754928021192009-05-01T14:18:00.000+02:002009-05-01T14:18:00.000+02:00I don't see why they started introducing nerfs so ...I don't see why they started introducing nerfs so quickly.<br /><br />The enrage timer on XT 002 for example, was a tight one for us, and we did fail to beat the enrage timer on the first couple of visits there, but not by much.<br /> <br />With a bit more practice we got it done, and it was a close run thing, but this week, despite letting some scrap bots get through, we managed to one-shot it with plenty of time left.<br />The challenge for this boss has suddenly gone.*vlad*noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-10717341057864398432009-05-01T11:36:00.000+02:002009-05-01T11:36:00.000+02:00Normal mode was made slightly easier, hard mode wa...Normal mode was made slightly easier, hard mode was made harder in most cases. <br /><br />Go do hard mode if you feel that making it easier is a bad thing ;)Sweetcherriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03904742253394231819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-90623494400783849662009-05-01T08:36:00.000+02:002009-05-01T08:36:00.000+02:00It's a funny thing but when we heard about the mos...It's a funny thing but when we heard about the most recent round of nerfs, everyone from my raid group (who gave a reaction) was disappointed. We'd thought it was tuned perfectly for us before.<br /><br />And it's an odd situation for me because we're not remotely hardcore. And maybe now I understand better how the hardcore felt when Sunwell was nerfed.<br /><br />It's so strange that they started with the nerfs so quickly. I don't even know what to think yet. And it's not really going to help them because if guilds like mine get through normal mode quickly, we still probably don't have the dps for hardmode so people still get bored and leave (plus its summer coming up, as you said.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-79482358050863009992009-05-01T07:39:00.000+02:002009-05-01T07:39:00.000+02:00We saw this pattern in BC: nerf content as a certa...We saw this pattern in BC: nerf content as a certain percentage of players hit a wall in order to keep them playing. I wouldn't have expected nerfs for at least a couple months. Unfortunately Naxx was too easy, so expectations for difficulty ended up too low and people may be hitting a perceived wall too soon as they wipe, get frustrated, and leave. Hopefully Blizzard will learn from this.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-61108927391340127812009-05-01T06:50:00.000+02:002009-05-01T06:50:00.000+02:00This will never stop. Blizzard does not want the "...This will never stop. Blizzard does not want the "My real life schedule does not let me get out of the fire" players to be frustrated and leave.<br /><br />That's why you MUST be in a topguild or you see nothing.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-72514660043116826932009-05-01T04:18:00.000+02:002009-05-01T04:18:00.000+02:00I remember one of my guilds falling apart when the...I remember one of my guilds falling apart when the main tank when on vacation for the summer=/rubymelonhttp://www.rubymelon.com/tc/rubynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-61747520934801742872009-05-01T04:13:00.000+02:002009-05-01T04:13:00.000+02:00also after all these nerfs they bugged Mimiron on ...also after all these nerfs they bugged Mimiron on Tuesday so he was owning people in stage 3, GGTristanhttp://www.elitistpodcast.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-59704013191438199272009-05-01T03:44:00.000+02:002009-05-01T03:44:00.000+02:00Now be fair Larisa, if you can't one-shot new boss...Now be fair Larisa, if you can't one-shot new bosses wearing a mix of level 70 green items (I would have said spirit items previously... but they might actually increase your dps), then the game just isn't worth playing... <br /><br />Err joke...<br /><br />Seriously I have heard that lots of people are /raid quitting if they don't one-shot raid bosses. We copped a bit of this the other night with KT, where a PUG Hunter got a swift kick up the interface.<br /><br />Think of it as a new Achievement.... go hard!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com