tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post5206700687082883537..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: The honeymoon is over for the bitter veteransLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-16587698237559588372011-02-03T15:17:33.819+01:002011-02-03T15:17:33.819+01:00Random bunch of shitty personalities, yes. but rem...Random bunch of shitty personalities, yes. but remember, that the roses require their manure, and without the roses you wouldn't notice the manure covering your boots.<br /><br />And I mean exactly what you read: the instances do not require skill if we three can three man them... Our adventures are worth the read just because we don't know jack about the game. We play it for the laughs together and I worry about the lonesome nights without the group.<br /><br />C outAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501269687241477498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-91109879031464947302011-01-26T15:32:23.151+01:002011-01-26T15:32:23.151+01:00Disclaimer: I am not employed by Blizzard or any ...Disclaimer: I am not employed by Blizzard or any WoW related organizations. I am not a fanboi. I just love the game.<br /><br />Prior to yesterday I had never read Wolfshead's blog, but have seen reference to his negative commentary before.<br /><br />I was curious, and read not only the post you linked, but also the most recent posts he has made, his biography and selected posts from his first up to about 2 years ago.<br /><br />Having done a bit of a background check on Wolfshead, I can completely understand why he is so disappointed/angry/disgusted with the current state of WoW. He came to WoW from EQ, and encountered Azeroth in all its complexity, difficulty and unknownness (not a real word, but it works).<br /><br />Many of his complaints are very valid. Much of that complexity, and difficulty has been forever lost. The levelling process is hyper-streamlined. The mob density has been nerfed to the point that when entering an area, you hope that you are alone in the area, or at least one of few, or killing those 15 Foozles will be a major PITA.<br /><br />A lot of quests give you a companion that ostensibly you have to escort or "train", but is there to act as an NPC group member. While this is appreciated on the first occasion or two, after 40 levels it is just insulting really.<br /><br />Epic questlines are gone as well. Rarely does a line entail more than 2 or 3 stages, and even those that run longer hold you hand all the way. The game no longer requires any significant ability to solve problems. The most difficult problems that WoW now presents us with are raid related: Getting along with people electronically, and performing your dance steps correctly.<br /><br />The levelling process does not require socialization. There are no longer any attunements, any group quests, any insurmountable obstacles which require cooperation.<br /><br />WoW now feels like a trophy wife, gorgeous and covered in bling, but dumb as a stump.<br /><br />Now, don't get me wrong, I love the game. I always find something to do, and I don't see that ending soon. The graphics and music are stunning. Many of the more recently implemented features are welcome additions.<br /><br />But even though I thoroughly enjoy playing, I can't help but feeling the sense of loss that Wolfshead proclaims.<br /><br />Where is the game that required me to think?Snailnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-24238845669852603282011-01-25T07:09:55.544+01:002011-01-25T07:09:55.544+01:00@Grimmtooth: Not necessarily. The investment is i...@Grimmtooth: Not necessarily. The investment is in characters, items, stories, and the community, all things which may not extend outside the game. They are only there in the game. Sure you make friends within and may keep them, but that is not the only case and we can't make points as if it is. It still ignores too much and fails to take into account the whole impact.Red Skieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10870968743396599899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-20263491510676832802011-01-25T01:26:11.378+01:002011-01-25T01:26:11.378+01:00@Larisa - I definitely agree that Wolfshead has mo...@Larisa - I definitely agree that Wolfshead has more good things to say than most of the occupants of the Do Not Read list. I still normally catch on to those posts though, because other (braver? less sensitive?) bloggers in the MMO universe point them out. Maybe I've taken advantage of you there a bit!Rhiihttp://www.ohmykurenai.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-56386914944212084522011-01-24T20:43:59.792+01:002011-01-24T20:43:59.792+01:00But at least I don’t call it out from the rooftops...<i>But at least I don’t call it out from the rooftops: “Egg suck!” </i><br /><br />Me, I'd pay real gold fer ta get ta see the pink pigtailed one on me roof shouting that. But I's easily amused....<br /><br />Me personallies, I's enjoying Cat more than Wrath. Is some quibbles, like no 333/346 guns fer warriors and Deathwing parking a volcano on me home, but overalls I's pretty happy. Is fair ta say what this done be heavily colorized by me personal situations, which is way better than in the early days of Wrash of the Itch King. Would I still like it more, if the situations was comparable? Dunno, and don't really care. I's havin' me funs. Thems what ain't, I sincerely wishes them the best in finding they's funs. Eithers in Azeroth with different localized circumstancifications, or in another place what fits betters.Ratshaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12111084510465688124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-83833704721613819872011-01-24T17:39:41.953+01:002011-01-24T17:39:41.953+01:00@Red Skies - Perhaps, but if the investment 't...@Red Skies - Perhaps, but if the investment 'took', the social element extends out into the real world, and then the 'platform' that started the ball rolling becomes irrelevant. The game is not the thing, in this case, it is the people, and they will continue on into the next game. I've seen groups move from MMO to MMO like that.Grimmtoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14384688484347073287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-12552598952342421182011-01-24T17:22:19.096+01:002011-01-24T17:22:19.096+01:00@Grimtooth: It *is* an investment. We shouldn...@Grimtooth: It *is* an investment. We shouldn't under estimate the personal, emotional, and time investment we make as players into MMOs. It fails to acknowledge the social element that makes these games popular.<br /><br />As is apparent from my own blog ramblings, I do not feel this is the best expansion, by a long shot. However, it does have its merits. Unfortunately the bad out weighs the good for me.<br /><br />Interestingly, a lot of the dissenting posts who disagree with Wolfsheads state they have been playing the game for only a year or so, or they started in 2007 (as Larissa). That is a conversation worth having in itself: how those who came late to the party view the game versus those who have been there since the start. I happen to hold more of the sentiment Rilgon expressed.<br /><br />Still, attacking Wolf for attacking WoW doesn't lack any irony. We may not agree with him or like the way he expresses himself, but it is useful to discuss the finer points he makes which may have merit.Red Skieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10870968743396599899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-5188091485302130992011-01-24T16:09:41.143+01:002011-01-24T16:09:41.143+01:00@Mr. Man: I’ve been waiting for someone to call me...@Mr. Man: I’ve been waiting for someone to call me out on that! It’s very impractical but I’m afraid I can’t do much about it. But at least I don’t call it out from the rooftops: “Egg suck!” Even though it would be true. ;)<br /><br />@Leah: Well, fortunately enough I don’t see that much of either category of players. Most of the time I’m too focused playing the game, moving out of crap, nuking the bad guys to really notice or care about all the toxic stuff. But sometimes I hear them if they cry loud enough. Like Wolfshead.<br /><br />@Juliet: I really can’t wait to do it. But I have some other priorities: first tend to my main, then level my druid to 85 (miss my healing). Hopefully I’ll get time to do those zones eventually though.<br /><br />@Talarian: It’s a good observation. Wolfshead has changed just like WoW has changed. And maybe I should stop crying for the “old” Wolfshead. You’re right about being predictable. The last week offered a lot of been-there-before moments. We’re bringing up the same old topics again and again and we perform the dance we’ve done before.<br /> <br />@Perdissa: I’m totally prepared to read blogs with WoW criticism as long as it’s reasonable, well founded and not just trollish. Lonomonkeys post is a good example of a balanced post that you can discuss further in an intelligent, civilized manner.<br /><br />@William: Yes, his review feels very incomplete. Your observation about immersion vs phasing is interesting. I haven’t thought of it that way, but there is something in it. When we change phases we make an impact on the world and that certainly has an immersive element in it.<br /><br />@Lily: Oh I’m guility of that too, of devouring the content too quickly, not reading quest texts properly etc, in my eagerness to start raiding. So Cataclysm is probably even BETTER than I have noticed due to my levelling speed.<br /><br />And: /hug! Miss you!<br /><br />@Tobeume: Thanks!<br /><br />@Nugget: Oh, a bitter veteran who still is balanced and manages to keep his senses, putting things into perspective. Cheers!<br /><br />@Jayd: I figure I should most of all feel sorry for those unhappy people… I certainly hope I won’t turn into one of them when it’s my turn to jump the ship eventually.<br /><br />@Copra: a random bunch of shitty personalities? Well a random bunch of personalities, yes, but where does the shit part come from? I know some quite awesome people in WoW and I think it’s very unfair to bunch those up with “shit”.<br /><br />If you’re threemanning the five-mans you must be a way better player than I am. Kudos to you. However I think the instances are quite challenging to many players.<br />I agree that the moving track-feeling in some of the questing and the lack of control and choices is problematic. But I don’t agree with your conclusion that WoW is on the decline.<br />I think it’s better than ever before.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-62686425400485058032011-01-24T16:09:24.653+01:002011-01-24T16:09:24.653+01:00@Syl: The wrapping is shiny indeed. And those who ...@Syl: The wrapping is shiny indeed. And those who get bored and run out of content immediately must have insane amount of time at their hands to play. I think I spend quite a lot of time on this hobby, but I still have a to-do-list that is way to long for me to ever complete.<br /><br />@Angry gamer: Levelcap: I don’t know. It isn’t just about the arbitrary number for level cap, it’s about how you get there, how fulfilling the levelling is. And I don’t think Cataclysm felt any thinner than Wrath in this aspect. About less fun etc… well, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m having a blast. Lucky me!<br /><br />@Hound: well… He has quite a bit of influence in the blogosphere so I thought that maybe someone should make an effort to show that his view isn’t the only one.<br /><br />@Jasyla: thank you. I’m glad you appreciated the post.<br /> <br />@Nils: I guess my hostility is triggered by Wolfshead’s own stance. Yes, I’m maybe too easy to provoke sometimes.<br /><br />“Complaining that WoW doesn't offer enough 'immersion' is like complaining that Tetris doesn't offer character customization.”<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />@Grainger: Yes, the bar chat has been a bit loud this weekend. Like you I see both good and bad stuff about Cataclysm as well as the LFD tool. And I actually think that’s the case for most of us. The extremes such as Wolfshead are in minority.<br /><br />@Gronthe: I don’t know if Wolfshead is looking for attention to be honest. I think he has a sincere mission in this. It’s just that he’s missing the target, yelling too loud for us to hear what he’s saying.<br /><br />@Lonomonkey: It’s true that some WoW palyers can be very dismissive when it comes to criticism and pointers about what could be improved in WoW. I hope I’m not one of those blind fanboys. I certainly try to see it with open eyes, hence the ending of my post.<br /><br />@Khaas the Insane: Nah, he’s not a dick, more of a gentleman blinded by fury and the joy of using strong words. A bit speed blinded perhaps.<br /><br />@Stabs: I guess he finds it more fun to talk about WoW even if he isn’t playing it, since it after all has a way bigger audience than rather small and obscure games? Even if he doesn’t play WoW I don’t think he’ll stop talking about it anytime soon.<br /><br />@Gazimoff: Maybe it’s the very size and success of WoW that makes everyone want THAT game to be the solution for all needs? But I agree it isn’t rational to see it that way.<br /><br />@Rhii: Yes, I agree that the swiping statements about the community are a bit insulting.<br />I don’t dwell too much on posts by WoW haters either normally; however Wolfshead has written some good stuff in the past and is generally a good writer. So I still want to hear what he has to say, even when he blows up completely as in this case. Maybe I should follow your example though and just shut it out from my horizon. <br /><br /> @Moxie: Fair point. Wolfshead IS into game design himself. I guess it can feel a little frustrating when you feel that you’re not listened to since everyone is so wrapped up in the have-to-copy-the-success-of-WoW mindset.<br /><br />@Iru: Yep. It’s not just WoW that reminds of a themepark these days. The reactions to WoW have some roller coaster resemblances.<br /> <br />@Spinksville: I liked Wrath too, overall. There has been a lot of bashing of it and they did some mistakes, which they have admitted surprisingly openly recently. But the coherent theme was great. However I’m leaning towards thinking that Cataclysm is a bit shinier.<br /><br />@Anonymous: Indeed people have very short memories. And as far as I’ve understood it WoW was at an early point influenced by the frustration many players felt with for instance EQ.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-72537761786410805672011-01-24T16:09:01.822+01:002011-01-24T16:09:01.822+01:00@All: wow, that discussion got hotter than I had i...@All: wow, that discussion got hotter than I had imagined. But I guess it’s to expect if you start out blowing off some of your own steam.<br /><br />@Grimmtooth: We do tend to blow things out of proportions sometimes. I must admit that I’m as guilty of that as anyone else. I suppose a part of it is that it’s fun to act as if you’re completely freaked out by something even if you deep down know it isn’t such a bit issue. Rhetorics ftw! It’s fun to rant, the harder, the better. But it’s a pity when the good arguments get lost in the pile as you say, which I’m afraid think is what happened to Wolfshead in this case.<br /><br />@Janyaa: Same here. It’s not perfect, but what I’ve seen so far has been good enough for me.<br /><br /> @Pitrelli: Well I think you’ve been playing the game too long. As simple as that. The novelty wears off. In the end WoW is WoW and no new polish can change that. I’m in for this expansion myself, not entirely sure I’ll hang around for the next one. We’ll see.<br /><br /> @Nikodhemus: That’s the way I want to quit too. A clean break but no bad feelings. We had fun as long as it lasted.<br /><br />@Pike: Yes, for some reason it seems to bug those people a lot that not everyone will see the light as they have. It’s strange. I don’t rail about people who like a certain sort of literature that I’m not a fan of. Live and let live, isn’t that how you say it?<br /><br />@Rilgon Arcsinh: There’s a lot of things that he doesn’t seem to have noticed. I wonder how many hours he really has given Cataclysm to be honest. About the guild system: sure, the bigger guild have an advantage there. But on the other hand the 10-man raiding guilds were buffed with loot and the entire change of the raid system. We see the consequences already. I don’t think there will be that many strict 25 man raiding guilds in the future. So what the small have lost in one aspect, they’ve won in another.<br /><br />And the guild perks… however nice they are, are they really so game changing that you can’t enjoy the game and have a great time in a smaller guild? I don’t think so.<br /><br />@Prelimar: A very respactable troll if you ask me.<br /> <br />@Shelly: Well I think the idea of group quests broke down with phasing. Finishing Icecrown was almost impossible if you weren’t doing it when the wave did it. But I still regret it. I remember grouping up for the ogrila group quests for instance in BE and we had a blast as we did those quests in a five-man.<br /> <br />@Klepsacovic: You needn’t have deleted your comments. It isn’t the end of the world if the smalltalk in the bar gets a bit loud sometimes. <br /><br />@Redbeard: The Sky has been falling the last 15 years or so, hasn’t it?<br /><br />@Tesh: I guess I might never have loved WoW enough to feel that sense of betrayal if it changes a bit. So maybe the real WoW lover here is Wolfshead, for all his bashing?<br /><br />@Selyndia: Oh, I agree very much about the five-mans. They’re really trying to learn us to step out of fire and they feel kind of like mini raids. Which is why they’re awesome. It’s not just about “grab the epics” anymore.<br /><br />About the toxic nature of the community: I mostly frequent the non-contaminated areas tbh.<br /><br />@Saithir: Glad you’re enjoying it too!<br /><br />@SpiritusRex: no worries, PPI is a wall-of-text friendly space!<br />And yes, I’m afraid I’m guilty of giving the 2-year-olds more attention than they deserve.<br /><br />@Kestrel: I think you’re right about your observation on the guild advancement system. And if you’re just a bit active it seems you can advance with a rather small or average guild. We’ve got about 40 active players and we’re advancing just fine. You don’t have to have hundreds and thousands of players to advance. I too was worried that would happen but it doesn’t seem to be the case.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-45467665493942631722011-01-24T07:39:16.474+01:002011-01-24T07:39:16.474+01:00I don't even bother to read most of the commen...I don't even bother to read most of the comments in here. I have some things to comment on you Larísa though.<br /><br />The community in WoW sucks, really. That community consists of all of us players, and we're not a community: there is no community as such, just a random bunch of shitty personalities. Like you yourself stated in the debate about WoW community earlier, the 'community' consists of small communities which may or may not work. In total, the community as whole doesn't exist and the vocal minority is extremely poor but representative portion of it.<br /><br />The 5 man challenge is just right you say? HAH! In WotLK - even - we wouldn't had a snowball's chance in hell to trio the instances at proper level: now we've 3manned the initial ones without even hitting a real obstacle. Then again, we haven't gone through them all and we're still levelling and learning, but the overall experience is that Cataclysm is TOO EASY while levelling.<br /><br />The railroaded levelling and taking the illusion of freedom of choice from the players are the worst parts of the expansion, and they are really taking the fun out of the game for someone like me, who likes to level. Lost one interesting project and character due to unbendable rules set in ingame storytelling. I have felt confined to a story with no possibility to make any decisions on my own and the choices in game being non-existing.<br /><br />Sure, the new starter quest chains are fun, fast and furious, but they give very, very different view of the latter game than they should. And they give very flat view of the world, too.<br /><br />So all in all, IMO, Cataclysm has gone too far in some aspects and unless it's a very big success, we will see some recuperative actions in the next expansion.<br /><br />Or WoW will decline even more.<br /><br />C outAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501269687241477498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-87638557700975072072011-01-24T07:29:43.165+01:002011-01-24T07:29:43.165+01:00I completely agree with your stance on this, Laris...I completely agree with your stance on this, Larisa. It pains me to know that people can be so tied to Wow that even when they know they are over it they just can't let go and have to hang around complaining about it.<br /><br />I'm loving Cata so far, and I'm so glad the Wow community as a whole was listened to so well by the designers. Of course it's not going to be everyone's perfect cup of tea (I'm loving the solo aspect of levelling and not missing the group quests at all, for example, whereas a few people have mentioned how much they dislike this) but overall I consider it a success.Jaydhttp://jaydsfire.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-9985324857600489622011-01-24T05:31:18.739+01:002011-01-24T05:31:18.739+01:00Hmmm!
Honestly, I found Cataclysm to be the best ...Hmmm!<br /><br />Honestly, I found Cataclysm to be the best of all three expansions. <br /><br />That I'm not playing/into/don't like WoW anymore doesn't detract from the fact that Cataclysm is truly polished, beautiful work.<br /><br />I think it's the best WoW stuff since Vanilla.<br /><br />...and I'm probably one of those bitter veterans you're referring to.<br /><br />I don't quite get how anyone can look at Cataclysm and call it bad. It is the embodiment of everything WoW is, refined to perfection. I no longer play because *I do not like what WoW is*. That doesn't make it bad, or unpolished.<br /><br />Cataclysm is horrible? No way. If Cataclysm was what I got when I'd bought Burning Crusade, I'd probably still be playing WoW.nuggethttp://nugget.posterous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-17612396903288798422011-01-24T02:20:32.754+01:002011-01-24T02:20:32.754+01:00Here, here! Great post as always.
I think if peop...Here, here! Great post as always.<br /><br />I think if people don't like Cata, they can exit stage left. I don't like dealing with negative people so the fewer the better. :)<br /><br />I do agree with the pain of not being able to pick where you want to go in the zone. The first time I did Uldum I was terrified that I would do one quest line and miss out on the other do to the heavy phasing. I had heard horror stories of people being locked out of the Harrison Jones quest line because they turned in a quest at the wrong time.Tobeumehttp://nonchalantpriest.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-26087661636102554862011-01-23T22:18:02.508+01:002011-01-23T22:18:02.508+01:00Here's my 2c:
It is new content. (Period)
I...Here's my 2c: <br /><br />It is new content. (Period)<br /><br />If you devour new content in all haste with the purpose of experiencing it as fast as possible, I think chances are you are not really taking in what is really happening. You just see the quest type line-up, grind that mob, pick those items etc, instead of seeing the setup with the environment, the involved characters, lore and what not.<br /><br />In that case I can understand that it is not a fun or entertaining experience. <br /><br />About the public whining. Well.. Some people need attention i guess.<br /><br />I quit due to RL issues just before last summer, and have not seen any of the Cataclysm contents so I really can not elaborate any further into that but from what I have heard, there is not much to complain about, apart from some imbalances in PVP (Go ferals!) ;D<br />Trolls will be trolls.<br /><br />Anyway, o/ Larísa *hugs*Lilyguess it! :Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-81590183958767107632011-01-23T20:29:33.203+01:002011-01-23T20:29:33.203+01:00I just read the Wolfshead article and felt so trol...I just read the Wolfshead article and felt so trolled. He kept droning on about how leveling content in Cataclysm is no longer challenging to him. What I don’t understand is why he thinks the original WoW actually provided this (sounds like major rose-tinted glasses). As far as I’m aware, mages used to just spam fireball spell all the way to level 60 or something like that and even during raids. Meanwhile, 95% of the quests were of the type “Kill 10 x, gather 10 Y”.<br /><br />Sure there was more freedom, but more immersion? Phasing content actually makes it seem like you’re causing real changes to the game world, which is miles ahead in immersion compared to the old content, so I don’t understand that part either.<br /><br />Leveling content was never intended to be challenging, ever (unless you tried to solo group quests, which is unintended anyhow). If he wanted challenge in WoW, why hasn’t he been trying out the new heroics + raid content? There IS challenge in the game. He just seems to willingly ignore it and then start ranting about it.Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11766911131864232262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-48197661791883464912011-01-23T03:33:52.899+01:002011-01-23T03:33:52.899+01:00I probably mentioned this before. I enjoy WoW, and...I probably mentioned this before. I enjoy WoW, and I read blogs about WoW. I don't see any reason why I should bother to read blogs about why WoW sucks. I'm not completely satisfied with WoW, and can readily point out several points it can improve on in a variety of areas. But if I grow weary of the game or become irritated enough to quit, I'll do so quietly. Reading blogs about why WoW sucks is not going to make me quit the game.<br /><br />I really don't get the rationale of people who need to kick up a storm and make a very public thing of quitting the game. Like what you mentioned, this seems very much to me like a badly terminated relationship. When I break up with my ex-girlfriend, I don't care what she does, I don't go back and stalk her or monitor what she does and point out "ha! see what she did? what a bitch!" If I did, I would think my feelings for her were not completely resolved. And I think that's what's happening here as well.Perdissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-36573487492331530232011-01-23T01:07:34.685+01:002011-01-23T01:07:34.685+01:00It's interesting when people who we once held ...It's interesting when people who we once held in high esteem eventually change into someone who we have difficulties relating to. Wolfshead was once a respected blogger in the WoW community, and now seems to be more of a troll. And of course many people espouse that his point of view is no longer useful or relevant, or feel betrayed that his opinion has diverged.<br /><br />Similarly, when a game that you once held in high esteem and heavily invested in with time and emotion goes in a direction that you don't care for, you decry it as no longer fun or relevant, and feel betrayed that "their" game has diverged.<br /><br />As a blogger, Wolfshead needs topics, and WoW is a good topic as ever, regardless of people's feelings on it. So while the average person might just shrug and complain to their inner circle of friends how WoW isn't fun anymore, Wolfshead's opinion is magnified by the megaphone that is his blog.<br /><br />I'm not saying I agree with him (in fact, I'm enjoying Cataclysm immensely), but I don't believe anyone's reactions here are terribly surprising (Wolfshead's, or Larisa's). On the other hand, I think Wolfshead's vociferous complaints can be chalked up to one of two things: as mentioned above, he wants the page views, or he still has a much larger emotional investment in the game than he lets on.Talarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684944568000522986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-44232976628882211432011-01-22T23:04:07.189+01:002011-01-22T23:04:07.189+01:00Great post. (Seems like my rare comments have onl...Great post. (Seems like my rare comments have only been when I disagree with you, which I really shouldn't do.)<br /><br />You really must try out the worgen and goblin starting zones. I've done both and can't decide which I like better; the goblin zone is quite hilarious and full of sly in-jokes, while the worgen zone affected me more emotionally than any quest chain since Redpath's redemption in Western Plaguelands. They left me craving more playtime in both cultures.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06424161468765167834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-89461279690170169002011-01-22T21:40:27.905+01:002011-01-22T21:40:27.905+01:00there are 2 major types of people who are making t...there are 2 major types of people who are making the noise. those who are an equivalent of a grumpy, unhappy little old man (or woman) that just need to put down and criticize absolutely everything and those who still feel something for the game and are making a desperate last ditch attempt to maybe get back that feeling of wonder and fun they used to get by pointing out the things that could have been better, didn't need to be changed etc.<br /><br />both are drowned out by the chorus of "you suck, wrath baby, l2p, can I haz your stuff" (and this sentiment lately is not just coming from community, developers are starting to adopt it and that's just wrong) and the sad part is, a great deal of the people who do that, are only doing it to be part of the cool crowd, in reality they are not accomplishing much in game either.<br /><br />the complaining trolls eat it all up, and keep stirring trouble, because that's what they feed off of. people who are still trying to somehow make it work, lose hope, stop trying to reach the developers, the community, anyone and just leave.<br /><br />and you end up with the community that's growing more and more toxic, a game that turns into a test subject for developers to play around with ideas on, using their players as beta testers that pay THEM, and lots and lots of disappointments for a lot of people.<br /><br />in the end its actually a good thing, why? it gives other games better chance to shine.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-61063426345424453232011-01-22T20:49:59.184+01:002011-01-22T20:49:59.184+01:00Raiding is inaccessible? To whom? Rep gear and cra...Raiding is inaccessible? To whom? Rep gear and crafted blues can get you to a 340-ish ilvl without the hated LFD tool, which by the way is a massive improvement over the trade channel, which is how PUGs formed in BC/vanilla. 45 minute queue times (more like 25 on my server) aren't bad, considering you can be questing, farming, eating cheetos or what have you while you wait. I played a rogue in BC, and some days I'd spend hours running circles in Shattrath trying to get a group together for the harder dungeons (which were rep gated - revered until very late in BC). It seems like people have very short memories about the negative aspects of "the good old days."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-40583456342817495822011-01-22T20:47:49.591+01:002011-01-22T20:47:49.591+01:00You don't like the taste of egg? Well that...You don't like the taste of egg? Well that's just crazy talk :-)Mr. Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-28863801356096055152011-01-22T18:56:50.655+01:002011-01-22T18:56:50.655+01:00Raiding is inaccessible? To whom? Rep gear and cra...Raiding is inaccessible? To whom? Rep gear and crafted blues can get you to a 340-ish ilvl without the hated LFD tool, which by the way is a massive improvement over the trade channel, which is how PUGs formed in BC/vanilla. 45 minute queue times (more like 25 on my server) aren't bad, considering you can be questing, farming, eating cheetos or what have you while you wait. I played a rogue in BC, and some days I'd spend hours running circles in Shattrath trying to get a group together for the harder dungeons (which were rep gated - revered until very late in BC). It seems like people have very short memories about the negative aspects of "the good old days."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-23278281884565677122011-01-22T11:52:28.846+01:002011-01-22T11:52:28.846+01:00Kestrel:
"A guild full of people under level ...Kestrel:<br />"A guild full of people under level 70, say, don't really need the 10% bonus to XP/Rep/gold that higher Guild Levels bring: They already have the benefit of simpler content in the form of linear, you-can't-possibly-fail quests, combined with a much greater XP payout than most of us experienced during that time."<br /><br />Well a guild of 85s certainly don't need xp boosts either.<br /><br />For what it's worth, I think Wrath was a far better expansion than Cataclysm so far. But I was just more interested in the Lich King than in Deathwing, plus there was a stronger storyline theme to the whole of Northrend than a place like Uldum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-17136433361496687422011-01-22T02:54:27.837+01:002011-01-22T02:54:27.837+01:00Students of Industrial Psychology know that both t...Students of Industrial Psychology know that both the Peak of Unreasonable Expectations and the Trough of Despair are feature of the hype-cycle of any change.<br /><br />All that's happening with each Wow release is that the cycle is speeding up. We got to both faster and then level out - or remain surprised that the world isn't stuck wherever we are.Iruhttp://www.jubilance.org/viewprofile.php?loginid=436noreply@blogger.com