tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post3525175439133064211..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Tobold being funnyLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-59335248395841000232009-08-29T09:13:14.235+02:002009-08-29T09:13:14.235+02:00@Shirochan: I remember a /wave I got the other day...@Shirochan: I remember a /wave I got the other day from someone I couldn't quite place in my mind. I reckoned it was someone I had pugged with recently, so I happily waved back. After all you don't get so many greetings from fellow players. At least I don't.<br /><br />I'm a little bit annoyed that you're so shy that you couldn't say hi. I won't bite you (I'm a gnome, not worgen, mind you), and I won't screenshot our conversation and post it as an example of M&S.<br /><br />So please if you ever see me online, don't hesitate to say hi, as long as I'm not raiding, because then I'm not very speakable.<br /><br />If you're looking for me online, I've got a strang í in my name. If you can't get it right, do a /who Adrenaline and you'll see if I'm there.<br /><br />Looking forward to hear from you!Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-22904337978072239702009-08-29T06:55:27.169+02:002009-08-29T06:55:27.169+02:00Just to do a comment that has nothing to do with t...Just to do a comment that has nothing to do with the topic; I love reading your blog, and I am on your server, I even /waved at you shyly one day (and even got a wave back!), but I didn't dare to send you a whisper about reading your blog, and loving it, as I felt it would be a bother to you. Same as I've delayed this comment for ages, but I finally decided to just tell you already! <br />Keep it up, Larisa. <br /><br />I also love the fact that Cacknoob comments here. He is a fun part of playing on Stormrage. We missed him during his break!Shirochannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-30985015801752387422009-08-29T00:43:15.976+02:002009-08-29T00:43:15.976+02:00Ah, bother. My URL wasn't entered correctly. ...Ah, bother. My URL wasn't entered correctly. My identity is ruined, <b>ruined</b>, I tell you!Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-2621728950079380292009-08-29T00:40:01.994+02:002009-08-29T00:40:01.994+02:00I think I'm Tesh, therefore I am.I think I'm Tesh, therefore I am.Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordspress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-41618092201181559672009-08-28T17:56:47.021+02:002009-08-28T17:56:47.021+02:00Larísa, of course it’s a simplification. I don’t t...Larísa, of course it’s a simplification. I don’t think Larísa is on the opposite side of Gevlon, mainly because there are no sides. Human beings have multiple facets, and the blog avatars sometimes emphasize one region of the writer’s nature. In my opinion it is kind of childish to think of Gevlon’s writer as that antisocial, practical and greedy persona. <br />Besides you must be blind if you don’t see a human caring side on those godfather projects (5K gold a week) and those cute emotes :-)Krytushttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalvengyr&n=Krytusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-21527528741909634692009-08-28T16:40:49.389+02:002009-08-28T16:40:49.389+02:00@Tobold: Why do we place so much emphasis on appea...@Tobold: Why do we place so much emphasis on appearance IRL? It's natural human instinct, which isn't to say it is good. Arguably online appearance matters more, since it is 100% chosen, and could be taken as a more accurate reflection of who a person really is.<br /><br />@Larisa: Surely you have heard voices which have no place in a choir. I know mine would not unless it was merely to add volume and all the badness would be drowned out by everyone else. But in that case, am I just being carried?Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-60154542138855007952009-08-28T10:44:40.430+02:002009-08-28T10:44:40.430+02:00I wonder if it would be kinda funny if we all star...I wonder if it would be kinda funny if we all start blogging on<br /><br />"I am not Gevlon/Tobold because..."<br /><br />That'll be fun XDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-46508309855986041922009-08-28T09:17:39.650+02:002009-08-28T09:17:39.650+02:00@Tobold: it definitely gives a lot of food for tho...@Tobold: it definitely gives a lot of food for thought about blogging and how brands are built, not necessary by the brand holder, but in the mind of the consumer. Another question comes to mind: how come that most of the WoW blogging community, including myself, are hiding behind avatars, not giving out our identity? The very few that do are mostly into the business professionally one way or another. But if you look at the Blogosphere outside of WoW and gaming, it's much, much more common that you present yourself to the world with name and picture. How come? Is it because we're ashamed of our gaming or is there something else behind? I'm just like this myself. Why do I keep this blog a secret, why don't I proudly tell people I know about it?<br /><br />And does the anonymity affect how much we can trust the blogs? Maybe. But it doesn't affect how interesting reads they are.<br />What I look for in blogs are thoughts that somehow will entertain me or stimulate my own reflection over things. If Gevlon and Tobold would be the same person, would that change the effect your posts would have on me? Would it make them less entertaining or thought provoking? Not when I think about it intellectually. But emotionally it apparently makes a difference.<br /><br />"Blacklisting". Yeah, that's plain silly. Probably it was written in affect. After all, those familiar blogging avatars and voices give us a (false) sense of stability. They're foundations in the blogging community we belong to. And a Cataclysm of the sort you suggested stirs up feelings and make us feel a bit uneasy, leading to backbone reactions such as blacklisting. I think some of your readers felt betrayed, until you told the truth.<br /><br />For my own part I was totally amused. My ownly problem is that I somehow can't help feeling a bit sorry for Gevlon. What if it was me that was affected? What if someone else claimed seriously to be Larísa? Isn't it a bit intrusive, against the ethics of blogging? Wasn't Gevlon used? Now, as Gevlon was your victim, hand he often makes fun of others, I don't cry too many tears. He can take it and he can probably take out a revenge, if he's up for it. But thinking closely about it, it's not only giggles in this.<br /><br />Hm... that was a lenghty reply to a comment! Sorry for ranting in this unstructured way, it's just that the whole experiment is very thought provoking, many things remain for me to sort out for myself.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-16942160430014983462009-08-28T09:17:27.940+02:002009-08-28T09:17:27.940+02:00@Anonymous: Gevlon & BBB… You said it! Damn, I...@Anonymous: Gevlon & BBB… You said it! Damn, I should have known…<br />Or maybe he’s Krizzly, now that Krizzly seems to have been overtaken by Onyxia. I’m seriously puzzled by this.<br /><br />@Klepsacovic: He’s not abnormal, come on! He likes to pull things to its edge. So did I when I was young, before I turned into a boring on-one-hand-on-the-other-hand balancing old lady. Look at mankind as a choir, with numerous different sorts of voices. What makes the song of a choir beautiful is the multitude in it. Gevlon is one voice and he’s just as needed as mine.<br /><br />@Fish: yes, isn’t it funny? The whole thing, including the aftermath, with loads of people claiming to be Gevlon gives me giggles.<br /><br />@Cacknoob: are you sure that you are you? Maybe you’re me? Think this over closely.<br /><br />@Fitz: well, if nothing else I think the amount of text would be quite impressive if it was one person behind all of them. At least Tobold and Gevlon both writes often mostly very long posts. I don’t write quite as much, but if you add it up… it would be a part time job to keep up the charade.<br /><br />@Leah: it would definitely take quite a lot of skill and commitment to start writing as someone else. At least for me it would be an impossible task to convincingly imitate any other blogger. When I think about it.<br /><br />@Krizzlybear, sorry, Onyxia…thanks for reminding us! We’d better pull ourselves together after this little intermezzo and go out killing some dragons again.<br /><br />@Krytus: I tend to be placed in the opposite corner of Gevlon. And it’s true that I’ve sometimes spoken up against him, challenging some of his simplifications about group dynamics. However, sometimes I nod and think: “he has a point, cleaver guy”. I don’t think that we’re all on opposite sides, even though I can understand that the readers would like to sort us that way, for simplification.<br /><br />@We Fly Spitfires: well, we all need stuff to blog about, right? As long as they get inspiration to another blog post, even the goblin haters don’t mind giving some link love.<br /><br />@Rhii: you’ve been wondering what Larísa thought about this? Awww. Yeah, you were right. This was the kind of topic that I really felt a need to comment on. So much that it would take a post rather than a comment to say all I wanted to.Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-67236638624684826882009-08-28T08:43:07.460+02:002009-08-28T08:43:07.460+02:00What I found really interesting was that on Twitte...What I found really interesting was that on Twitter several known bloggers said that if I was Gevlon, they would "blacklist" me. Blacklist, how Old Skool, I thought that term had died out the day Everquest stopped being the number one MMORPG on the market. <br /><br />Anyway, what was really interesting was how intensely people *believe* in the personas of Tobold and Gevlon. Theoretically it shouldn't matter at all, the same thought expressed on either blog should be equally valid. Practically people attach a huge "brand" to us, and the same thought will be viewed differently on different blogs.<br /><br />NEWSFLASH: In another stunning revelation it turned out that neither Gevlon nor Tobold really exist. If you could check the passports of me and Gevlon, you'd see that mine doesn't say Tobold, and his doesn't say Gevlon. And Larisa probably doesn't exist either, and doesn't have pink pigtails. How does it come that people attach more meaning to our avatars than to our arguments?Toboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04354082945218389596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-8764185489039575302009-08-28T03:48:18.027+02:002009-08-28T03:48:18.027+02:00Larisa - I'd been wondering what you had to sa...Larisa - I'd been wondering what you had to say about all this ever since I found Tobold's post today. Didn't see a reply from you there or on Gevlon's site...<br /><br />Rather glad you weren't fooled.Rhiihttp://www.isheepthings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-92180824967545054772009-08-27T23:55:15.126+02:002009-08-27T23:55:15.126+02:00@Krytus: Humans have that voice of their own and i...@Krytus: Humans have that voice of their own and it is our responsibility to control it, not succumb to its madness. That is what it is, selfish madness, the type of thought that leads to dictators eliminating half the population because logically it is twice us much for the rest of us. I have that voice and I have no need for another, nor does anyone else. Instead the voice we need is the kinder voice of people like Larisa. This isn't to say that we should all be emotional and irrational, but that we should not make the mistake of confusing rationality and cruelty.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-53130253910407619542009-08-27T21:56:40.878+02:002009-08-27T21:56:40.878+02:00I didn't really believe Tobold but I think he ...I didn't really believe Tobold but I think he actually has a wicked sense of humour :) It was great to see everyone's reactions :)<br /><br />Thing I don't get it why so many people have a go at Gevlon and talk about how much they dislike this stuff yet constantly link to his blog and help drive his traffic and infamy up :)We Fly Spitfireshttp://blog.weflyspitfires.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-26815817594474384302009-08-27T21:19:21.878+02:002009-08-27T21:19:21.878+02:00@krizzly and onyxia
Screenshot, or it didn't ...@krizzly and onyxia<br /><br />Screenshot, or it didn't happenRiverhttp://highlatencylife.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-15107932793039232232009-08-27T21:12:16.160+02:002009-08-27T21:12:16.160+02:00@Klepsacovic
Cruel and inhuman? I rather say pract...@Klepsacovic<br />Cruel and inhuman? I rather say practical, after all he is a goblin. But don´t worry too much, those like him are indeed a rare abnormality, the majority of WoW population is casual friendly people… enjoy your welfare epics.<br /><br />Ok, that sounded too harsh, let me rephrase. Although the Gevlon persona is sometimes over the top with his comments, I don’t really think he could be catalogued as inhuman. On the contrary, in my opinion Gevlon is eagerly to speak up for that, very human, practical, dark side of each people. We all have, to some degree, social imposed boundaries, and we usually refrain our own desires in order to blend in a group. Well, Gevlon is that little voice on your shoulder that asks: What if I don’t care?<br /><br />I really enjoy listening to that voice as much as I enjoy listening to the one on my other shoulder: a little pinkpigtailed gnome.Krytushttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalvengyr&n=Krytusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-50227190603041714812009-08-27T20:54:50.801+02:002009-08-27T20:54:50.801+02:00@Fitz
roll a female dwarf and watch everyone lawl...@Fitz<br /><br />roll a female dwarf and watch everyone lawl at you and call you ugly... and then try to get you to stand still during Easter achievement week.Miss Medicinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722915845184864567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-60680385908563145142009-08-27T20:35:44.576+02:002009-08-27T20:35:44.576+02:00PITIFUL BLOGGERS
WHILE YOU ARE ALL OUT IN THE NET...PITIFUL BLOGGERS<br /><br />WHILE YOU ARE ALL OUT IN THE NETHER BICKERING ABOUT WHO IS WHO, I, ONYXIA, AM RAMPAGING THROUGHOUT AZEROTH, AND THERES NOBODY TO STOP ME<br /><br />NOBODYkrizzlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131923949935079418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-15199235314973258142009-08-27T20:11:35.292+02:002009-08-27T20:11:35.292+02:00@Carra, since you provided the link, that's to...@Carra, since you provided the link, that's to keep them in deathrow. I say just slaughter them by the thousands, it will save alot of money. As soon as you decide that something can be killed, then there is no reason to treat it with humanity, it will be dust soon.<br /><br />As for relating THAT to games, since all visual input our brain recieves is mostly an estimate of what it expects to see (which is why people remember colors wrong sometimes), then slaughtering in game is just as real to your brain as slaughter in real life (the input part of your brain not the logic).Pangoria Fallstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01148359926488188195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-9289191122607832682009-08-27T19:26:15.535+02:002009-08-27T19:26:15.535+02:00somehow there was never a doubt in my mind that it...somehow there was never a doubt in my mind that it was a hoax. its too elaborate, has far too many holes in it and considering how prolific both Tobold and Gevlon are - its far too time consuming.<br /><br />But maybe its because unlike Pangora I could never fake being my husband or he - me? it least not to people we play with on regular basis. they recognize the difference within the first few sentences :) to not slip up and confuse two very different styles of writing for this long with pretty much daily posts on both blogs? Can you imagine the effort and lying ability that would take? and for what? (I haven't read Ferraro's blog long enough to get a feel of her or his writing style, but personally I tend to think it was a singular person, who got caught stealing stories. The alternative is too outlanding)<br /><br />LeahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-10637987743603394862009-08-27T19:13:39.914+02:002009-08-27T19:13:39.914+02:00Although the "hoax" has been revealed in...Although the "hoax" has been revealed in this case, the idea that Gevlon=Tobold=Larisa would be a mind-blowing revelation on the order of nothing ever seen before in the blog universe. <br /><br />And Larisa, roll a male blood elf and a female blood elf, level each to 10-12 in Silvermoon, and I guarantee you will be treated differently at some point along the way.Fitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10822446969197409741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-13275778091006146712009-08-27T19:13:00.555+02:002009-08-27T19:13:00.555+02:00Previous 2 posts my failure at humour...
Cacknoob...Previous 2 posts my failure at humour...<br /><br />Cacknoob (aion and Wow)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-88478068295174480742009-08-27T19:12:26.040+02:002009-08-27T19:12:26.040+02:00Im not me....does that count ?Im not me....does that count ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-3316877413874872232009-08-27T19:12:05.064+02:002009-08-27T19:12:05.064+02:00Im me...does that count ?Im me...does that count ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-42325233800872247982009-08-27T18:07:14.285+02:002009-08-27T18:07:14.285+02:00It has been proven that the only 100% effective me...It has been proven that the only 100% effective method to reduce recidivism is execution.<br /><br />I think this whole thing has been rather amusing. I KNOW certain bloggers in real life, although not well-read ones. I think the ferraro thing got a lot more attention because it was someone posting fake real life info in their online persona.<br /><br />We've seen pictures of the Goblin's living space, never pics of the Goblin himself. I've often thought of posting a "Fish in real life" post, but honestly never thought it really pertinent. I write a blog about wow, what does it matter who I am in real life?<br /><br />If Tobold and the Goblin were the same person, would it change my opinion of eithers' blog? Not unless they lost their individual identity and became more similar. I do read tobold, I don't read the goblin. It's not an indication of my thoughts of them personally, more about their subject matter.Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17653252976648480240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-14105935987743679062009-08-27T18:06:46.526+02:002009-08-27T18:06:46.526+02:00@ Gevlon: Having been in Law Enforcement, the Thre...@ Gevlon: Having been in Law Enforcement, the Three Strikes Law is not all it is cracked up to be. It has to be three of the same type of crime. Then it has to be ruled a "strike" by the judge....which it usually isnt. I saw several people with rap sheets a mile long that had maybe one strike. Three Strikes is a lie.Darraxushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09290390808933294129noreply@blogger.com