tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post2246524967486340437..comments2023-08-12T17:27:01.102+02:00Comments on The Pink Pigtail Inn: Sad and frustratedLarísahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-89366948855868730952009-07-07T19:28:20.269+02:002009-07-07T19:28:20.269+02:00No one can be 100% positive 100% of the time! Eve...No one can be 100% positive 100% of the time! Even when you are angrily ranting you still have a positive outlook on life. The best part is you always try to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from their perspective, which inspires me to temper my reflexive fury a bit more. :) It takes something really unfair and annoying like your computer to even get you mad, and then when you are mad you are nice about it. :) <br /><br />Best of luck with your computer problems. From my perspective, I justify my computer upgrades because WoW and other PC gaming is one of my primary hobbies/recreational activities, but I can't pretend to know your circumstances or what your family's needs are.<br /><br />It sounds like you've already gotten a ton of good suggestions from people who know much more about computers than me. Hope they help!Hatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615033343005638291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-61581814932954509632009-07-07T15:12:28.634+02:002009-07-07T15:12:28.634+02:00I understand your frustration about FPS - my FPS h...I understand your frustration about FPS - my FPS have just gone down the drain the last month and I'm hurting pretty badly - not just in Dalaran! That's to be expected - out in low level areas where there is NO ONE! I'm worried that my computer is just going to up and die and I'll be left with nothing :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-38039177948679494402009-07-06T13:57:07.179+02:002009-07-06T13:57:07.179+02:00> "They couldn't tell for how long the...> "They couldn't tell for how long they'll keep the machine - it seemed as if it could be anything from a day to a week... Imagining my first raid after getting back the pc, seeing the fights in a more fluid manner..."<br /><br />If the improvement is very large it might even be worth the wait :)<br /><br />Good luck and I hope you enjoy your forced vacation from a computer screen. At least most places are now enjoying sunny weather :)SolidStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05872179337759398145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-33858741396416282132009-07-06T13:27:56.046+02:002009-07-06T13:27:56.046+02:00@Everyone: I've turned over the computer now t...@Everyone: I've turned over the computer now to some professionals - together with printouts from the programs I've run, following your suggestions, and the ideas about the cause and the possible solutions that you've given me.<br /><br />They couldn't tell for how long they'll keep the machine - it seemed as if it could be anything from a day to a week.<br /><br />So now I'll just have to cope with the loss of the game for a little while. Deep inside I know that it probably just makes me good to spend a little more time in the fresh air or reading a good book instead of focusing on a screen for hours. <br /><br />Can't help hoping that they'll not only be able to fix the heat thing, but maybe also improve my fps a little bit. Imagining my first raid after getting back the pc, seeing the fights in a more fluid manner... Oh you can always dream, can't you?<br /><br />Thanks once again for your support and the effort you've put into trying to help me solve this!Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-64502308002541688282009-07-06T13:07:58.408+02:002009-07-06T13:07:58.408+02:00Computer problems, little else can get me so blood...Computer problems, little else can get me so bloody nervous. Yes, why can't they just work? And I'm not bad at fixing computers.<br /><br />It does sound like a heating problem. I had a two or three video cards blow up because their fan stopped working. Check if it still runs. And of course, check the temperature. If all fails, bring it to a PC repair guy and be without PC for a few days.<br /><br />I see there have been quite a few replies to help you, glad to see that. I have a similar configuration at home (E8400, Geforce 8800 GT and 550 watt PSU). I can run some temperature checks to see what I get but that 90 looks excessive and close to blow up your CPU.<br /><br />I have to add that buying a new PC does not have to be very expensive. Especially if it's just for playing WoW and none of the newest 3D games. For €700 you should have a pc that can easily handle WoW plus all new games. It's not cheap but if you can keep it for three years, that's 230 euros a year.<br /><br />But I see an E8400 which is only 18 months old and you mention that you bought a new motherobard, cpu & ram. You already have a new PC. Tss, complaining about your "three year old pc", it's practically top of the line ;) Just have to get if fixed. I wish you good luck with that!Carrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11155709707982913637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-46689815410483829502009-07-05T22:59:49.318+02:002009-07-05T22:59:49.318+02:00Hey Larisa,
*hugs* hope you feel better :)
Chro...Hey Larisa,<br /><br />*hugs* hope you feel better :)<br /><br />Chronic computer problems suck. I certainly can sympathize, as I play on a TI-83+ graphing calculator--er, a Dell Inspiron 6400 that was pretty lousy when I bought it 3 years ago.<br /><br />I can tell you right now though that it must be some kind of technical problem, as I run my settings at about 40% of max and I don't have near the stats that you do (128 MB video card, lol).<br /><br />I'm not a computer whiz, but I did have similar problems with my cooling system awhile back. Mine never shut off all the way, just cut most of the power to the processor, reducing my fps to fph. (Though I can see that happening with a 94 degree reading /boggle)<br /><br />My problem was the sensor--fans wouldn't turn on at all. I fixed it with a control program that over-rides the bios.<br /><br />Other than that I would take Grimmtooth's suggestion about the thermal paste--or if that makes you nervous leave it with the pros, who can usually handle problems like that ok.<br /><br />Hope it all turns out ok!Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03810858979281766801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-13432517583398420992009-07-05T10:19:55.009+02:002009-07-05T10:19:55.009+02:00Oh, and definately check out the nvidia website fo...Oh, and definately check out the nvidia website for a video card driver update! You'd be surprised how much this matters- a lot.<br /><br />http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-usAzryuhttp://thearcanery.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-51903927775792013002009-07-05T10:08:00.272+02:002009-07-05T10:08:00.272+02:00Try downloading Ccleaner if you do not have it- it...Try downloading Ccleaner if you do not have it- it's an amazing program that will scan and clear out unneccesary files and will ALSO scan your registry to see if there is unnecesary entrys in there, too.<br /><br />It's amazing what a Ccleaning can do.<br /><br />You also might try downloading Registry Mechanic, which is also an amazing program that can also scan your registry, but it can also tune your computers "services", which are essentially just features, to where they should be.<br /><br />For instance, my computer had a Bluetooth technology thing running. My computer is not a bluetooth computer. It took care of it.<br /><br />Other then that? I'd reccomend 'ye old fashioned complete restoration of the computer back to "new". It almost always does the trick, but if you take this route remember to backup all your important files, INCLUDING your WoW patches! Those are far too large to download again if you don't have too.<br /><br />Best of luck!Azryuhttp://thearcanery.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-79599863433299190542009-07-04T19:45:19.028+02:002009-07-04T19:45:19.028+02:00450W is a bit marginal for that class of processor...450W is a bit marginal for that class of processor, but it should not make it run hot. I think that issue can be deferred for now while you work out the temp thing. Could be all you need is a $5 tube of thermal paste and a re-seat of the cooler.Grimmtoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14384688484347073287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-13739077057315703612009-07-04T19:01:23.037+02:002009-07-04T19:01:23.037+02:00It's possible that the PSU is slightly low... ...It's possible that the PSU is slightly low... a Corsair 450W.<br /><br />The CPU processor is original.<br /><br />And yeah, Eaten by a Grue, I'm so sick and tired of repairing this machine that you have no idea. It's a little more then 3 years old though. It feels strange if I should trash it. So even if I'll end up buying a new computer, in spite of the protests of my family, I want this one to work properly. I intend to give it to one of my daughters, who has a WAY old and crappy computer... <br /><br />And if I could just make it work a little bit longer I could buy myself some time while deciding where to go next...Larísanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-22789925131717619572009-07-04T18:18:59.006+02:002009-07-04T18:18:59.006+02:00Get a new PC. It's not going to be worth the ...Get a new PC. It's not going to be worth the money to try to keep fixing it.<br /><br />You can get some really good deals online now. And if it is the fancy video card you are worried about, if it is PCIe, you can probably just move it to the new computer.Eaten by a Gruehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01741777795065029482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-25118607344704605202009-07-04T18:02:05.093+02:002009-07-04T18:02:05.093+02:00Oh boy Larisa. :( Sounds bad. My previous PC did t...Oh boy Larisa. :( Sounds bad. My previous PC did this... getting worse and worse as it went. I started by setting it up in the coolest spot in the house, which helped for a while, then I moved to using an external fan which also helped for a while. Eventually, in desperation, I tried putting cold things (ice packs, frozen peas) between the fan and the pc to see if blowing colder air would help... Eventually I couldn't play WoW anymore at all. Until I got a new pc.<br /><br />But mine was very old, and didn't have the components yours has... your components are better than the ones I'm using now, and I'm running wow at medium-high settings with no problem.<br /><br />Whatever you decide to do, I hope you get it sorted out quickly, so that you (and your guildies) don't have to be so sad and frustrated anymore. I hate to see it, you're such a happy person usually.<br /><br />/hugRhiihttp://www.isheepthings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-31218311060537629182009-07-04T16:54:52.447+02:002009-07-04T16:54:52.447+02:00Your CPU temperature is about 20 degrees too high....Your CPU temperature is about 20 degrees too high. Your system temperature also seems a tad high, although I would have to check back at home what my readings are (currently writing from laptop). Please note that playing with open case and no external fan to move the air does very little...<br /><br />Do you use the default CPU fan that is solved with it or did you upgrade to a better one? If you have not upgraded, the Cooler Master V8 is really a very good CPU cooler, and will set you back very little.<br /><br />You should run your system under load (WoW running) and re-check your hwmonitor readings. If temperatures continue to rise, consider taking a break from gaming till your can get a proper CPU fan installed.<br /><br />As someone mentioned, sometimes a simple PSU upgrade can help. Computers (well silicon chips to be exact) work better (faster) based on 2 seperate external conditions: the higher the operating voltage is (up to a limit) and the lower the temperature is. Upgrading your CPU fan should help with the 2nd. Upgrading your PSU, assuming your voltage supply is marginal, will help with the first. Again I don't remember exact values and will have to check at home but off hand I don't see any specially low voltage reading. Do you know your PSU model? If you have you case open, it should be written on the side or bottom. For your computer a 550W model should be plenty.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />SolidSolidStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05872179337759398145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-76760178138661207442009-07-04T13:31:12.118+02:002009-07-04T13:31:12.118+02:00The support from the community leaves me stunned. ...The support from the community leaves me stunned. You're amazing, do you know that, PPI readers? I seriously appreciate it, it means more to me than you can understand.<br /><br />I've downloaded a couple of the programs suggested and made a picture of the readings if it makes sense to anyone.<br /><br />http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/905/pcproblemq.<br />jpg<br /><br />This was taken after the pc had been going for a while, but without any heavy work (no gaming), just plain surfing.<br /><br />Side of the pc open, but no external extra fan.<br /><br />I'm currently leaning towards leaving it to some professionals to tend to. If nothing else I'd like the pc to be in decent shape even if I'll eventuall buy a new one, since one of my daughters is likely to take it over from me.<br /><br />Still, even if I'll end up leaving it to more knowledgable people, my experience is that it's more likely that they'll do a good job if I can help them out, pointing them in the right direction.<br /><br />about addons cack: I use a few, but not that many. in raids I always bring it down to a minimum, turning off things as ARkinventory, Cartographer etc. Basically I use DBM, Omen, X-pearl, MSBT, Magefever, Quartz, Grid and Clique. That's all I can think of at least.<br /><br />Not much of an UI fanatic.<br /><br />BTW: then computer stayed alive during the TN show, yay! Skype lagged terribly so I didn't hear half of what people said, but at least it didn't shut down.<br /><br />My expectations on what my computer should deliver are currently very modest....Larísahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05769822260333419777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-77684893643011761142009-07-04T13:26:11.717+02:002009-07-04T13:26:11.717+02:00Dear Larísa,
I simply can't give you any tech...Dear Larísa,<br /><br />I simply can't give you any technical advise, since I am a noob with machines.<br />If you raise this with Blizzard they will probably tell you to delete you WTF folder blah blah blah crap crap /yawn.<br />All I wanna do is give you a gnomely<br />/woohoo<br />/hurrah<br />to cheer you up a bit and /comfort you that it will be ok sooner or later :)<br /><br />/big hug!<br /><br />DizzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-26152860609819473392009-07-04T12:22:42.698+02:002009-07-04T12:22:42.698+02:00Larisa,
no more tears!!!
and one thing ppl have ...Larisa,<br /><br />no more tears!!!<br /><br />and one thing ppl have missed out on...how many addons are you using? are they upto date? sounds trival, but they also can put some strain on your pc.<br /><br />CackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-62038879099701619102009-07-04T11:14:48.809+02:002009-07-04T11:14:48.809+02:00Last summer I had the same issues - random PC shut...Last summer I had the same issues - random PC shutdowns when playng WoW, not whe doing anything else.<br /><br />This was when daytime temps hit 28C. I had to run with a big room fan pointing at the PC and the side off the box.<br /><br />Annoying and noisy but it worked.<br /><br />This summer I had to swap out my PSU and splurged on a fairly fancy modualar unit that is way overspecced for my current PC. Old PSU was chap and 550W. New one if highly efficient (less heat) and 1000W (plus has two huge fans in it).<br /><br />We've had temps of 32C+ and no problems at all.Ulvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14821581893933004376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-72171996407010852682009-07-04T09:43:36.938+02:002009-07-04T09:43:36.938+02:00oddly enough I've been having the same sudden ...oddly enough I've been having the same sudden reccent crashes of my PC which has never before done this. It's been very very warm in my apartment of late so I've assumed that despite the fans on the PC, the added external temps have played a part. <br /><br />I too suffer with horrible FPS in Wrath. I never had an awesometastic system in BC, but in Wrath it's beyond non awesome to like 1-3 fps on some bosses depending on how much AOE splash damage there is.<br /><br />My poor little computer needs an overhaul or I simply need a new system but unfortunately, a new computer just isn't in the cards for me atm cause of RL job issues. <br /><br />Sob.<br /><br />You have my sypathies!! Let us both pray to the happy computer gods to make our systems start performing better!Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13589216084533064707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-82258864553640135542009-07-03T22:57:21.601+02:002009-07-03T22:57:21.601+02:00@I'm agreeing with SolidState on this one. You...@I'm agreeing with SolidState on this one. Your graphics card is just slightly worse than the one I upgraded to and the processor is much much better than the one I use. You also have more memory than me. You should not be having any hardware problems at all. I run mine on max settings.<br /><br />Something else is going on here. Either some part is failing or some setting is not correct. <br /><br />You do not need a new computer. A new part, maybe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-7857118805141711832009-07-03T21:55:02.576+02:002009-07-03T21:55:02.576+02:00I second what Gevlon and Christina said, with 2 ca...I second what Gevlon and Christina said, with 2 caveats:<br /><br />Regarding what Gevlon wrote, if you have a friend who knows how to build a computer from parts s/he should easily be able to diagnose if you have a fan/airflow problem and solve it cheaply. So while I agree you should take your computer to be repaired (75 celsius idle is way too hot), a computer shop is not your only option.<br /><br />Regarding Christina's post, she wrote "With those specs you should be able to play with the setting turned considerably high" but later she added "If you have the income to support a purchase without hardship, it might be time to get yourself a new computer". I agree with the first part and think the second contradicts, or at least makes no real sense given the first part. Your CPU is top of the line and your GPU is not bad either, certainly good enough for WoW at high settings (well except shadows). Unless you're planning on playing other games soon that require more GPU power, I don't see any reason to upgrade. Even if you do, you can much more easily upgrade only the GPU card instead of buying a whole new computer.SolidStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05872179337759398145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-87939731130920039712009-07-03T20:28:16.754+02:002009-07-03T20:28:16.754+02:00I too run with a fan pointing at my pc in the heat...I too run with a fan pointing at my pc in the heat of the summer.<br /><br /> With those specs you should be able to play with the setting turned considerably higher. In addition to the very sensible suggestions you have received thus far, I would suggest looking at the environment around your pc. Does it have sufficient empty space around it for air movement? Is it next to anything that gives off additional heat?<br /><br />If you have the income to support a purchase without hardship, it might be time to get yourself a new computer, since you don't enjoy the technical aspects. It isn't selfish to want something for yourself every few years, and your current pc would provide an additional system for your children to use. It's not wrong for you to enjoy wow any more than it is wrong for your daughter to enjoy sims. Everyone in the house does not have to enjoy the same hobbies to make it worthwhile to invest in the supplies for a hobby.Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08842906898895135244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-33438105328636804972009-07-03T19:37:57.697+02:002009-07-03T19:37:57.697+02:0075C idle temperature is a LOT. I have 37 now (idle...75C idle temperature is a LOT. I have 37 now (idle too).<br /><br />The fan is either terribly weak or its not properly installed. If you can't fix it, bring it to a shop.<br /><br />If they say you need a "case cooler" or "house cooler" say no and simply remove the side of the case.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-34055814115805224372009-07-03T19:25:03.903+02:002009-07-03T19:25:03.903+02:00Some more about the pc, stuff I found in the syste...Some more about the pc, stuff I found in the system description:<br /><br />IntelCore 2 Duo CPU<br />E 8400 @ 3,00 Ghz, 3.25 GM RAM, <br />Graphic card: Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT<br /><br />windows XP professional, think the mothercard is called Gigabyte GBB3X6X (not entirely sure what's what in the list)<br /><br />It's not more than one or two months since I reinstalled everything from scratch, installing new mothercard, processor and RAM.<br /><br />And I've got space enough for wow.<br /><br />When I'm not running wow the core temp is at 75 degrees.Larísanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-55244848003695066762009-07-03T19:16:17.543+02:002009-07-03T19:16:17.543+02:00If the core is 95C you can be happy that it's ...If the core is 95C you can be happy that it's still alive. Do as Grimmtooth said. If you can't do it yourself, bring it to a shop.<br /><br />Download CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) and run it. Make screenshots on the CPU, Mainboard and Memory pages and post it on the blog. The people will tell you what to do then.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7084921087677216126.post-26560562050277699072009-07-03T18:41:11.414+02:002009-07-03T18:41:11.414+02:00My computer has started doing the very same thing,...My computer has started doing the very same thing, except i KNOW it's the GPU, because of the sudden increase in endless polygons and the distinct sound my GPU makes when it reboots itself..<br /><br />G'Luck!Flawlless - listening to you later.noreply@blogger.com